German GW ZF4 scope, real or reproduction?

**subijitsu** · 10-11-2011 01:14 PM

Hi all, I have this German icon

ZF4 scope that I found while cleaning out some old boxes of stuff at my house. If I remember correctly I picked it up at a swap meet years ago for pretty cheap. I am not sure if it is a real one or a reproduction. It looks like it could be real but before I sell it I wanted to ask the experts so I dont misrepresent it.

Any ideas?

Also, what should I ask for a scope like this?

Thanks!

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**subijitsu** · 10-13-2011 10:17 PM

Nobody? I hope the braintrust that is Milsurps.com isnt starting to slip.

I probably posted this in the wrong place? If so I would appreciate it if the Mod gods could smile upon me and move it to the proper place.

**subijitsu** · 10-22-2011 12:48 PM

Thanks for the move Badger!

**Calif-Steve** · 10-23-2011 01:07 AM

Repos are a recent thing. Good chance this is the real deal. No ideas on value. You might take it to the next Vallejo Gunshow. Several German icon

collectors there.

**Sarge** · 10-23-2011 02:11 AM

It is good, don't know what it may be worth. The original mounts are the expensive item not the scope.
When you decide on a value I might be interested.
Sarge

**subijitsu** · 10-23-2011 12:23 PM

Thanks guys. Im glad its real and I sure wish I had the original mounts to go with it.

Sarge, I will do some poking around on the net to see if I can find some that have sold to give us an idea. I will be in touch.

**CapnJohn** · 12-05-2011 03:11 PM

ddx Voigtlaender u. Sohn AG, Braunschweig

Apparently this is the manufacturer

**gunner** · 12-05-2011 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by CapnJohn

ddx Voigtlaender u. Sohn AG, Braunschweig

Apparently this is the manufacturer

You´re correct! Here is a link to the list of the German icon

optical manufacturers and the letter codes.

HerstellerkÃ¼rzel optische GerÃ¤te Wehrmacht - AusrÃ¼stung - multi-board.com

**samnev** · 04-13-2012 06:35 PM

It certainly looks real to me. If you can get a hold of the Collector Grade book Hitler's Garand It will show you in detail what real ones look like.

**MJ1** · 04-13-2012 09:11 PM

What is the problem? It also has the range drum water cap.

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