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    Need help identifying No4 MK 1

    This is my first Enfield Rifleicon and I am having a hard time reading the markings. my hope is that its WW2 era but in the end i bought it to help a family member who needed the money. its sporterized but i plan on restoring the rifle if its what i hope it is. its important to note that i don't even have the gun in my possession yet. im just to excited to wait a week to find out what it is haha.

    thanks in advance for the help!

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    We're going to need many more pics to be of definite help but it looks like it may be a Pakistani rifle... The No4 mk1s were of as far better fit and finish and the parts I can see are all mixed up with later ones. Ever the marking it's self is poor. The originals were much better quality.
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    Well, Fazakerly rifles aren't known for the quality of the markings! But more pics would be helpful as browningautorifleicon says.

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    Maybe I am missing something, but looks like typical Fazakerley markings to me. I see the "ROF", a partial serial number (T2?36?A), and a "2" above the "6" which would be the 2 in 42. Everything I see is telling me it is a 1942 ROF-Fazakerley.

    Here are a couple of pics of my 1942 ROF-F for comparison:

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    I thought that Faz rifles were electro pencilled on the receiver.

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    Its an early Faz.

    I think the guy who numbered the rifles at Faz must have later been transferred to Maltby....

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    thanks for the help. i will post more pics once i get it next week and have a chance to break it down. this is the only picture she sent me with any markings on it. the ROF is what got me excited and decided to buy it off her.

    ill post an update soon.

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    finally have the rifle in my hands. spent a couple of hours scrubbing decades of grime. someone didn't take good care of this old girl. she seems to be in working order though. no major parts missing although it has been sporterized.

    im still at a loss as to what year it was built. so hopefully all these markings can help identify it a little better. thanks to everyone.









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    As tlvaughn already stated, it was made in 1942. Restoration is complicated a little bit by the extra scope mount holes drilled into the top of the receiver and I'm assuming into the charger bridge as well. These would need to be filled in. It would be nice if the bolt serial number matched the rifle but you can check it's fit and function referencing Peter Laidlericon's technical articles.

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