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    old school sniper






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    Well, it WOULD get the job done...
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    Wow, Korea! I thought they were still using A1's with Unertls & 1903A4's then. I also thought the M70/Unertl didn't originate until Vietnam. Pretty neat!

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    Maintenance Officer. Folks of this ilk often referred to as REMFs. Another case proving not always so at all.

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    Neat photo. Never saw a photo of a commercial rifle used by a sniper on the US side in Korea before. And I have read ALOT of books on the conflict. Just finished Max Hastings book "The Korean War", most excellent journalism. Also read "The Coldest Winter: America and the Korean War". Question to Karl. Where do you get these old articles? They look like they are old news clippings or something similar. Thanks again.

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    I've read that the Marine Snipers in Viet-Nam were buying Commercial Rifles off the shelf in Okinawa. They were then tricked out by the Armorers . I also read Redfield Scopes were also big .

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    The M1903A1 with 8X Unertl used by the USMC was actually a compromise. Capt Van Orden and Master Gunner Lloyd had actually recommended a rifle (Win M70) very much like the personal rifle Capt. Brophy is holding in the picture for MC sniper duty The USMC, always very frugal, balked at adopting a new rifle and suggested the use of 1903A1 National Match and Special Target Rifles that were in storage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosmolinekid View Post
    I've read that the Marine Snipers in Viet-Nam were buying Commercial Rifles off the shelf in Okinawa. They were then tricked out by the Armorers . I also read Redfield Scopes were also big .
    There were some articles in gun magazines from the mid 60's which showed the hodgepodge of sniper equipment used by the USMC in the early days of Vietnam.

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    I do believe Carlos Hathcock used the M70, would have to dig his book out but I'm 95% sure.

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    Even in the early 1980's when I served in the U.S. Army, the most squared away Armorer's and higher lever maintenance folks all originated in Infantry units. Those are the folks that have a love of firearms and the mechanical ability to look after them. I'm sure there are exceptions but not many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarPig1976 View Post
    I do believe Carlos Hathcock used the M70, would have to dig his book out but I'm 95% sure.
    You are correct. Winchester Model 70 with a Unertl scope (I forgot the power. 8x I think it was) and 30-06 caliber.

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    Hathcock generally used the standard sniper rifle: the Winchester Model 70 .30-06 caliber rifle with the standard 8-power Unertl scope.
    Carlos Hathcock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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