Please Help Me Identify This Reverse Camo Jacket

[CRAZYBUBBA]

Hey guys, this is my first post

I came across this reverse camo piece with scovill zips and military style repairs but no labels. Does anyone know what this is?

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[RT Ellis]

I'll WAG it's a commercial American made hunter's jacket. Doesn't look like anything used by the military, although both of the camouflage patterns are similar to Army patterns.

[CRAZYBUBBA]

Thanks

I was confused myself due to the scovill zips and repairs (typically not so well done on civilian jackets).

[Harlan (Deceased)]

Welcome to our website CRAZYBUBBA!

Cool looking Jacket!

I tend to agree with RT Ellis on this one.... I've collected (mostly WWII US) military gear, guns, helmets, etc, since I was a kid and have been a bowhunter instructor for over 30 years and I've never seen that pattern camouflage in military use. It is actually a pretty good looking pattern reflecting the designs/patterns of commercial hunting camo that started being produced a lot in the 90's by 'Realtree', 'Realmoss',and many many others who copied the design of using actual 'leaf/foliage' patterned. Until then most of all us bowhunters used old surplus military clothing from the sixties and seventies, or the commercial "Duck Hunter" camo pattern that I think came out in the 50's or 60's, or only just khaki clothing... I kind of went overboard with camo after I started to bowhunt only in my late 20's. It carried over from my military gear passion from when I was as a kid. The US Marines first started using camo a lot in late WWII. The US Army experimented with camo clothing before WWII even started, but it was deemed to be too expensive to produce and not worth the expense (wrong) The German Army started to use some camo uniforms for combat soldiers in late WWII too. During the 'Battle Of The Bulge' in the last year of WWII, many the Germans who attacked us wore camo.. Many of their compatriots laughed at them when they saw the new style of camo fighting uniforms, and they called them 'Frogs'

I do agree with you about the old sowing repair. I've seen this type of repair on quite a bit of old US military gear too, but I think it was a carry-over from civilian repairs back then... Back in the past Americans repaired most things and didn't care if it looked perfect. They just wanted things to be functional and didn't throw them away like we do today when we get a 'smudge' on something or a screw breaks, etc, and we run to Walmart to buy a newer style, plastic (whatever product) that's cheap crap and by far probably made in CHINA. (I think most of us do it now)

I didn't mean to stray a little.. I'm a little curious about the repair style, but I really don't think this design was ever used by the US military. I never say "Never" with collectibles, but besides never seeing that pattern before in any military gear, it isn't marked at all. Just about all US military related gear/equipment (even doors, etc) are marked with stencils/markings/tags or something, as if the person looking at the object is an idiot.

I kind of feel like it's a commercial hunting jacket of some kind... Maybe a lower production type that never 'took on'. (?) It could be foreign military or something, but I've seen a lot of foreign gear over the years and most all of it will have markings of some kind. (I think Governments of all countries must think many of their citizens are morons or something)

[CRAZYBUBBA]

Thank you for the thorough explanation, and I loved the story btw. (I learned a lot!). Thanks for the help. You'll def see more of me around here.

[browningautorifle]

By the way...the material does look like the double sided helmet covers. I wonder if someone managed to procure some of that material surplus and manufacture some of those for market.

[CRAZYBUBBA]

Bingo!

Camopedia has a listing for the "wine leaf" pattern. Very informative! I knew it was military!

[browningautorifle]

USA - Camopedia So, this is what he's talking about. Yes, the material is PERHAPS a military material, but I don't think it's actually military produced clothing. That's why I was saying the material would be a surplus that was sewn up by some enterprising group. Now, If you can show us where this was an issue item...?

[CRAZYBUBBA]

Sorry, I'm wrong. This is the only link is been able to find, so it's not an issue item.