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p14 cocking piece safety issues
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02-10-2018 02:40 PM
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Just wondering if I have mismatched parts here or a gunsmith that didn't know what he was doing
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Change out the cocking piece A.S.P. the safety should work than . It is very unsafe as it is now .
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I think it might have a cock on opening conversion though and the trigger isn't a two stage anymore either. Looking for someone with extensive experience with these bolts.
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You need to change the cocking piece out, the safety has all been removed.
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Your cocking piece is at fault. I've never seen such a horrible looking example.
Attached are 3 photos of P14/M1917 cocking pieces, a standard cock on closing,
a standard cock on opening, My built-up cock on opening for use with a Timney trigger.
For some reason yours looks like a cock on opening unit that was poorly hand made.
Please replace it before using the rifle any further for safety's sake. - Bill
ETA: You can see in the well made cock on opening pieces how the gap for the safety hooks back
to fit the original safety which yours doesn't have.
Last edited by oldfoneguy; 02-11-2018 at 01:40 PM.
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Thanks Bill - Until I get a chance to replace it I'll fill it with jbweld - that way there's no mistaking it as a working safety. The lever just won't move. I'll see if I can find a cocking piece. I'm in Canada so things are sometimes a little tougher to find but this shouldn't be too hard.
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Numrich has cocking pieces in stock for $7.95 plus shipping. Ever since they dropped the export fee surcharge shipping is not to bad especially if you need a few items.
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So, I guess my question would be... the trigger has been altered - it's single stage now... and the bolt is cock on close as well... do I need to get a pre-modified cocking piece for cock on close then? What else might I need? I should order all the parts I might need. As Mr E Moose said they are inexpensive anyways.
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Yes Aletheuo you will need a cock on opening cocking piece of which there are exactly NONE for sale anywhere. Your 2 options is buy a new cock on opening (or speed) lock or convert it back to cock on closing. Another important consideration is the trigger. Is it a converted military trigger with a grinding job and take up screws added to remove the 2 stage and reduce length of pull or is it a proper aftermarket trigger. If your not sure about the trigger post pics, one of us will be able to give you an answer. I have a Timney trigger on my M1917 which is why I had to build up the cocking piece. There isn't enough surface for the sear to bite on those shorter aftermarket cocking pieces. A gentle bump on the butt plate was all that was needed to set off the rifle until the cocking piece was built up. If it is a modified service trigger you shouldn't have any problems with either choice.
Congratulations you now have several things to check as well as several options to weigh. Welcome to the joy of 100 year old service rifles! However once you have it figured out the P14 is a wonderful rifle to shoot. Very easy recoil and accurate to boot. Let us know what your course of action will be. - Bill
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