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Just picked this up
Brought this today it will be here in @8-9 working days.
Its obviously for a 20Pdr as per pics what intrigued me was the 2 piece SABO construction like the bottom half was either to fall away or be like a APDS round and assist the penetrator front piece to penetrate it is a prac round although I have seen a similar bottom piece for sale on the same site stating its proof round though only has the bottom bit and no driving bands!
Can any one out there elaborate on this projectile it is appreciated.
Its gunna look nice in my Centurian smoke round I have...............
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02-05-2020 08:17 AM
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Says discarding sabot [DS] on the sabot, with the T indicating tracer.
The sabot provides obturation, grip on the rifling, spin, etc in the barrel. As soon as it leaves the muzzle the normal air resistance retards the loose sabot and it it falls away, leaving the penetrator to investigate the hardness of the target's armour. The tracer in the penetrator allows gunner to follow flight and correct the second shot.
Blue grey colour would indicate practice?
Trust this doesn't duplicate what you already know.
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Agree with all of Daan's info, we had those lying around the range when I was much younger as the Centurions were still around. Yes, blue is practice, inert, no filler...looks like the bottom drive band was pilfered or just torn off after firing. I also have a smoke projectile with no remaining markings and have never the chance to find a case. Collector's source in Ontario had one but...$300CDN plus shipping...
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So the Mosquito outline and the De Havilland DH Australia
was a fairly wide supplying armoury?
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Here's my 20 pounder smoke projectile, it's been naked since I brushed the rust off back in about 1987...found a 155mm smoke same time but have since sold it. The bigger ones are hard to move with you when posted. The smaller ones not so bad. Now for a shell...
Here he sits among his friends...
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Fellow some of us around here knew who passed a few years back used to talk about stuff he'd found in Belgium
when he worked there in the 70s: Feisler Storch made into a henhouse, FSJ helmets nailed to beams as animal feeders. His biggest story was about the King Tiger which drove into a barn and promptly fell through the floor into the cellars where he claimed it remained to that day.
It was a good story anyway!
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Make a hell of a wine cellar Surpmil
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Yes, the more you drank the more believable it would seem.
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