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    ? about Inlands rear sight staking in CC newsletter

    I got my CC news letter this afternoon and it is my favorite one to date as I have several original or near original carbines from this serial number block. This is the rear sight on my M1A1icon. The color looks kind of funky because of the camera flash and being under bad lighting. I believe it to be one of the rear sights that was staked in place before parking due to the stake marks being parked and the numbers being parked except the 2 which is under a shadow where the peep was during finishing. You can faintly see the shadow line in the top pic.
    My question is the article talked about this type of staking on the milled sights but not the stamped. Is mine a anomaly or was this a normal staking on the stamped sight that was missed in the article?
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    My question is the article talked about this type of staking on the milled sights but not the stamped. Is mine a anomaly or was this a normal staking on the stamped sight that was missed in the article?
    Probably normal staking. The information in the article is based on "observed" or "reported" carbines, and that "More research is needed to ascertain the extent of usage of this type staking tool." It seems likely that the same tool that was used to stake milled adjustable rear sights could/would have been used on the stamped adjustable rear sights.

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    Nice job on the photos and the narrative. I, too, enjoyed the new issue. I sent my compliments on the quality of the writing to the newsletter editor. He responded in a couple of days and had already passed my remarks along.. I would encourage you to send your observations on. I have received great treatment from Marty. Some don't care for the club but I have seen nothing but a first class operation from top to bottom.

    My favorite is #357 - the serial number update for all makes. Anybody interested in beancounting and thinking of joining should do it based on that issue alone (membership is by calendar year, so if you join now you get all the 2010 issues, Jan thru Dec).

    Those who don't want to join can still advance the knowledge base by sending in data sheets for carbines they own - or see. Even a partially filled out data sheet on a mixmaster showing only serial number and barrel maker/date can help fill in gaps. As an example, the Jan 2010 issue (#357) shows lowest and highest known serial numbers in each block. Somebody out there has a carbine outside these identified ranges.

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    My impression was that milled and stamped were used as they arrived

    not necessarily by any date. Your M1Aicon sure fits the description of the staking in the CC letter. That CC edition is an example of what these folks can do with the data sent to them. One of the reasons to NOT change anything.

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    I've been a member of the Carbine Club since 1985 and have all the newsletters. They have came a long way in those years. I've saw alot of questions answered and a lot of new ones come up. If you want to see how far they have came. Just go back and read some of the early newsletters. That was a really great up date article. I think Inland is the hardest carbine to do a update on.

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    Another great artical from Chris. One thing about writting books or articals about Carbines. There has to be enough information to say something is a pattern. That is why Riesch's book is wrong a little but has a lot of leave outs. Original carbines are being changed to match his book. JC did a good job with what he had at the time. Anyone ever read LR's first book?. The CC did a review, I mean Roast of it. Very glad he Joined up. A great guy and CC member.
    Back in the late 70's I read a book on carbines and in it, it said something like, The blocks were assigned to confuse the enemy, (implying blocks were skipped) so the enemy would not know how many were made.
    Sorry, I get side tracked easy.

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    There is a problem in your assertion that the sight was in place before Parkerizing. #1, this was not done on a new Carbine, and #2 you can easily see the correct aged blued color of the sight base in contrast to the aged Parkerizing of the receiver (the aperture and range bar in the sight were Parkerized before assembly by the sight manufacturer). The sight would have originally had the range markings and index marks white-painted. I'd say the white paint has long since disappeared from the sight, and dirt/corrosion/oil/linseed oilicon have colored the stake marks. It simply looks like an excellent example of original finish to me. Check out Carbines that have been re-Park'd with the sight on and you'll see that the base is exactly the color/shade of the receiver. The whole Carbine will have this 'monotone' look.

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