+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Sportered Winchester 1917--recown?

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Legacy Member Calfed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Last On
    05-24-2024 @ 03:22 PM
    Location
    Land of the Free
    Age
    69
    Posts
    1,014
    Local Date
    05-30-2024
    Local Time
    06:49 PM

    Sportered Winchester 1917--recown?

    Few months back I glommed a sported 1917 Winchester. It looked like a workman like job of sporting and was cheap enough...




    I stuck a Weaver K4 on this one (didn't care for the United that came with it) and shot it today. The "crown" (or what a gunsmith might laughingly refer to as a crown) is scary looking.





    But even with the scary looking crown, it did ok..threw one to the 12o'clock and one went a bit wide

    Question...should I recrown the barrel and hope for an improvement?

    6 180 gr Federal Powr-shoks @ 100 yards
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Age
    2010
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Legacy Member Calfed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Last On
    05-24-2024 @ 03:22 PM
    Location
    Land of the Free
    Age
    69
    Posts
    1,014
    Local Date
    05-30-2024
    Local Time
    06:49 PM
    Thread Starter
    Guess what I meant to ask is : How much improvement could I expect from a re-crown?

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    Legacy Member flygrimm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Last On
    05-28-2024 @ 09:19 PM
    Location
    Bethlehem, PA
    Posts
    41
    Local Date
    05-30-2024
    Local Time
    09:49 PM
    I bet you could see pretty significant improvement. That muzzle looks pretty rough. A quick and fairly easy job. Shouldn't be too expensive either. Don't live close to a gunsmith - then you might want to try this: Muzzle Re-crowning Tool Kit (Manson) - Gun Tool Rentals . For arounf $40 you can do the job yourself and not be out too much cash if the change isn't all that great. The guy who makes the tool has some videos on youtube. I have been considering this for my Patt. 14, just haven't goten around to it.

    Stuart

  6. #4
    Legacy Member Calfed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Last On
    05-24-2024 @ 03:22 PM
    Location
    Land of the Free
    Age
    69
    Posts
    1,014
    Local Date
    05-30-2024
    Local Time
    06:49 PM
    Thread Starter
    I recently got the barrel recrowned. The gunsmith recommended a very slight re cut and then recrowned the barrel.



    Much better than the old "crown"


    I hope to get to the range this week and see if there is an improvement.
    Last edited by Calfed; 02-05-2013 at 08:19 PM.

  7. #5
    Legacy Member Calfed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Last On
    05-24-2024 @ 03:22 PM
    Location
    Land of the Free
    Age
    69
    Posts
    1,014
    Local Date
    05-30-2024
    Local Time
    06:49 PM
    Thread Starter
    Got to the range yesterday for a quick session. Didn't get many shots downrange, but did shoot a few with the sported 1917.

    I was a little disappointed in the results...Federal PS's at 100 yards...only had time for a few shots...looks like about 2.5 MOA



    I can't blame the new crown...it looks good


    I'm not sure if I got everything back into the stock correctly...or if it needs a little firing to settle everything. There doesn't seem to be much up pressure on the barrel at the tip of the stock either...might have to shim the tang a bit.

  8. #6
    Legacy Member RC20's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Last On
    02-07-2022 @ 09:20 PM
    Location
    Alaska
    Posts
    316
    Local Date
    05-30-2024
    Local Time
    04:49 PM
    The bore is one of the single biggest accuracy factors and its going to need a good crown job to find out for sure.

    You are also working off a limited data set. Go through the gun and make sure its set in the stock right and screws are good and tight. Shoot more groups using the same ammo. Don''t get hung up on trying to hit a spot, just shoot for groups and see what it does. If you can get it to shoot consistently (no matter what the MOA) then you can tune it in for a spot. 2.5 MOA may be the best it can do but again thats way to little info to decide that or even make changes on.

    And while I am not an expert, so far of all the ones I have checked, the stock is not shimmed, i.e. the end rattles.

    They may have not intended for these to have tension. I messed with my first one and it made no difference (actually got worse).

    Need to read back in the manuals to see what they had in mind

  9. #7
    Legacy Member Bruce McAskill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    01-17-2023 @ 09:10 PM
    Posts
    1,880
    Local Date
    05-30-2024
    Local Time
    08:49 PM
    Don't forget that your rifle just may not shoot one make of ammo and will shoot another make much better. Of course if you reload your ahead of the game as you can twick your loads to get the best accuracy.

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. New to me 1917 Winchester
    By BroncoJack in forum Pattern 1913/1914 and M1917 Rifles
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-30-2011, 10:59 PM
  2. Sportered 1917
    By Calfed in forum Pattern 1913/1914 and M1917 Rifles
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 11-25-2009, 12:08 PM
  3. mostly winchester 1917
    By jimicrakorn1 in forum Pattern 1913/1914 and M1917 Rifles
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 07-30-2009, 10:08 AM
  4. Need some help on this Winchester 1917
    By hognfrog in forum Pattern 1913/1914 and M1917 Rifles
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-09-2009, 01:04 AM
  5. 1917 US Winchester
    By baloubear in forum Commercial Auction and Sale "Gossip"
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-24-2009, 12:58 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts