Enfield Sniper

[tower06]

I noticed on forums that some individuals refurb Enfields. I just picked up a No.4 Mk.1T sniper that is in fairly decent shape but of course needs some work. The bolt is nice and tight, and the barrel is sharp but the stock and other parts could used some love. I have repro pads for it, and of course will need a mount and scope, but I wanted everyones thoughts on how to proceed. Should I refurb it or just clean up the stock and keep as is.

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[Badger]

If you're in the U.S., you might want to start with Brian Dick at BDL (see ad in top left corner of forum) before you start sawing and nailing (just kidding) ...

Pics would be helpful for us to see what you're starting with ...

Regards,
Badger

[tower06]

If you're in the U.S., you might want to start with Brian Dick at BDL (see ad in top left corner of forum) before you start sawing and nailing (just kidding) ...

Pics would be helpful for us to see what you're starting with ...

Regards,
Badger

Pics will be on the way soon.

[Peter Laidler]

Might I be so bold as to suggest Tower06 that there are only a few non committal answers to your main question because making up even a half decent No4T isn't just a case of getting yourself a No4T, the pads, a bracket and a scope, then screwing the lot together. If you are hell bent on doing it, might i be so bold as to suggest that you get yourself the whole set of bits and when you've done it, maybe I could explain the technical and optical problems that you WILL face.

None are insurmountable but the unwary can soon fall into a trap that turns into a chasm. And one that you can get into, past the point of no return VERY quickly and end up with a pile of tat.

But you can do it and end up with a perfectly useable, reliable and good repro No4T, albeit a fake.

You get the bits and we'll all walk slowly through it

[madcratebuilder]

None are insurmountable but the unwary can soon fall into a trap that turns into a chasm. And one that you can get into, past the point of no return VERY quickly and end up with a pile of tat.

Last year I collected Repro pads and mount and have a suitable donor rifle that already has been drilled and tapped for a aftermarket scope mount. I have plugged the old holes and I'm ready to drill and tap for the repro pads. Next hurtle is BA taps and mounting screws.

I'll be watching for more info on this..

[tower06]

Might I be so bold as to suggest Tower06 that there are only a few non committal answers to your main question because making up even a half decent No4T isn't just a case of getting yourself a No4T, the pads, a bracket and a scope, then screwing the lot together. If you are hell bent on doing it, might i be so bold as to suggest that you get yourself the whole set of bits and when you've done it, maybe I could explain the technical and optical problems that you WILL face.

None are insurmountable but the unwary can soon fall into a trap that turns into a chasm. And one that you can get into, past the point of no return VERY quickly and end up with a pile of tat.

But you can do it and end up with a perfectly useable, reliable and good repro No4T, albeit a fake.

You get the bits and we'll all walk slowly through it

I think that maybe I was misunderstood in my original post. The rifle I picked up is a original sniper #AT4242. My question is about refurbing it or leaving it as it is. It came w/o the pads mount or scope. I do have repro pads for it however and am going to try to find the mount and scope for it.

[Alan de Enfield]

I think that maybe I was misunderstood in my original post. The rifle I picked up is a original sniper #AT4242. My question is about refurbing it or leaving it as it is. It came w/o the pads mount or scope. I do have repro pads for it however and am going to try to find the mount and scope for it.

I think that what Peter was getting at is that the mounting of the pads and bracket and getting the whole lot central / aquare is the hard bit. Heres is part of a an old post of Peters :

..................Then the process of attaching the unfinished front pad to the rifle commenced. After this was firmly attached/soft soldered/screwed, a shell mill cutter would mill the front mounting spigot and bracket mating surface to an EXACT depth so that the round bracket mating surface – that’s the circular surface to the right and surrounding the actual spigot - is now at an exact distance from an imaginary line along the centre of the bore. The tool checkers checked the accuracy of these operations every evening during a short floating break period
You can now see that while the pad on your rifle is fixed to the body, it is actually aligned with great accuracy to the exact centre line of the bore ….., regardless of its relation to the body. This is the reason why that you can, if you are silly, desperate or just unwise, transfer a front pad to another rifle ….., and the centres of the screws align and fit, it won’t necessarily be either square on or axially correct for the rifle. The same goes for the bracket…………….

[Surpmil]

Watch eBay, original sets of pads do turn up from time to time. Bubbas the world over think alike it seems.

[lucky dog]

Forgive them Peter, they still don't get it.

[tower06]

I think that what Peter was getting at is that the mounting of the pads and bracket and getting the whole lot central / aquare is the hard bit. Heres is part of a an old post of Peters :

..................Then the process of attaching the unfinished front pad to the rifle commenced. After this was firmly attached/soft soldered/screwed, a shell mill cutter would mill the front mounting spigot and bracket mating surface to an EXACT depth so that the round bracket mating surface – that’s the circular surface to the right and surrounding the actual spigot - is now at an exact distance from an imaginary line along the centre of the bore. The tool checkers checked the accuracy of these operations every evening during a short floating break period
You can now see that while the pad on your rifle is fixed to the body, it is actually aligned with great accuracy to the exact centre line of the bore ….., regardless of its relation to the body. This is the reason why that you can, if you are silly, desperate or just unwise, transfer a front pad to another rifle ….., and the centres of the screws align and fit, it won’t necessarily be either square on or axially correct for the rifle. The same goes for the bracket…………….

My apologies for the mistake. It sounded like it was thought I was making a replica sniper. I'm actually trying to restore/refurb (whatever term you like) to close to original condition as possible.