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Manufacturer of this No 32 Mk I scope?
I can't see a maker's name - who was the manufacturer of this No 32 Mk I scope?
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06-23-2010 08:30 AM
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Your scope marking appears to be done with a electro pencil. Originals are stamped. Replica??
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MCB, can I ask: how certain are you about the stamping-only method of marking these scopes? I am certain the scope in the pic is not a repro; moreover, if you look at photo no 106 of the photo series on 1933 No t(T) (here's the link: Photo 106 of 290, 1933 Enfield No.4 Mk1(T) "Trials Rifle"
you will see that those marking are cut/engraved, not stamped.
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Madcrate, the originals are all engraved on a pantograph engraving machine. These 'unmarked' scopes are all within the KL sequence and that's Kodak Ltd (as in Kodak cameras.....) from Hemel Hempstead in Hertfordshire. They still exist
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It's a Kershaw Mk.1. One of the last Mk.1's produced there as their serial number range for Mk.1 production was 5800-7999. They picked up Mk.2 production at sn. 8000. It's right as rain.
You also need Peter's little booklet as it has all of this information and more. It's a bargain at $15 and shipping.
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I stand corrected but it's listed as Kershaw in the book. Are you sure the unmarked scopes are Kodak Peter? All of the Kodak Mk.1's I've had were marked KL. I know that you thought these were Kershaw originally but found out they were Kodak when you were researching the Bren book. Your thoughts?
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Yup, I've got two 1941 dated KL marked sn's 6494 and 7309. Both in the Kodak range as corrected by Peter. We need to correct the booklet.
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You're right Brian. I found that Kodak were asked to look into the manufacture of the Bren sight. So I went there and lo and behold, they're now microfisched records showed their No32 production. Kodak were indeed were indeed KL and NOT Kershaw.
Another No32 mystery solved.............
They also made 2 pounder No22 sights and loads more too
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Many thanks, Brian and Peter
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There's an odd little change in those KL scopes: those in the 6000 range, and perhaps a bit higher, have the numbers on the dials applied 'proud' in what looks like a lead based metal, rather than engraved I don't know the name for that method, but it is commonly used on binoculars for example. These digits actually projected through the original paint very slightly.
They also used cheeshead screws for the locking segment cover and the engraving was very shallow and thin on the tube.
Quite different from these un-named ones, so there must have been a change made at some point.
I believe someone locally has one in the 84-- range as well. I did something on it for him years ago. I see there's an 8039 here: Enfield Sniper on Gunbroker - Military Surplus Collectors Forums
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