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Mauser Stock Cartouche
I have a '42 JP Sauer mix master Mauser and I was recently looking at my rifle stock which is laminated. It has dings, dents, cuts, gouges, and scrapes; however it is still perfectly sound!
It has a serial number in the barrel channel which I can easily post if my question can be answered. On to my question: There are no cartouches on it except for a vary faint 'dot' located towards the toe of the stock, no waffeanamps on it any where else that I can tell. Would they have stopped marking them to save time? Or is this stock so worn down I just can't see them? (I owned since 2014 and just now noticed the dot). Or is it something else entirely?
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Is it a Russian
capture? If so it's been sanded to death.
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Originally Posted by
WarPig1976
Is it a
Russian capture? If so it's been sanded to death.
No, it is not no red shellac on it but here are few a picture of the stock. It does have some RC parts, but that is because it is a mix master. The bolt is an RC because I wanted to get rid of the czech one that was in it. and the receiver maybe? The receiver is half plumb colored. (Could post that as well)
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I suspect that it's been heavily sanded, has that look to it.
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Originally Posted by
Snowman1510
no red shellac
Thing is, shellac can and is removed from Mausers, Mosins, SKSs, SVT 38/40s you get the drift. In most cases one has to sand in addition to what the Reds did to remove all the Shellac down in the nooks and crannies. Not saying that happened here but just because it isn't there now......
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
I suspect that it's been heavily sanded, has that look to it.
Sadness! But I will still be happy with it, this stock has definitely been drug through hell and back sometime in its life.
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Originally Posted by
WarPig1976
Thing is, shellac can and is removed from Mausers, Mosins, SKSs, SVT 38/40s you get the drift. In most cases one has to sand in addition to what the Reds did to remove all the Shellac down in the nooks and crannies. Not saying that happened here but just because it isn't there now......
This quite possible could have happened, I remember when I bought it, my gun store told me the guy that sold it to them was in the middle of "restoring it". Evidence of this can be seen because the floor plate looks to be force matched to the receiver only because the font of the numbers looks different. So this guy could have sanded out the stock as well. And I can't tell on certain other parts as well, I don't know if they are NOS surplus or new reproduction as I don't know what should have waffenampts, doesn't, or is spotty.
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I have an RC and it came with the nasty red shellac which I removed and hidden under it were faint but clear eagles and an H stamp, I didn't sand it, I citristriped it. I don't think the Russians sanded them excessively but it probably was part of the process. That deep gouge looks to have smooth edges right up to the gouge. Had it not been heavily sanded, I would think that would be a lot more frayed in appearance.
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
Had it not been heavily sanded, I would think that would be a lot more frayed in appearance.
There is another huge scrape on the other side of the stock next to the receiver that has been smoothed down. I will post a pic when I get home for your better judging.
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Another indicator for the sanding is how it fits the metal. Notice how the wood is even with or even smaller than the butt plate? Wood as originally fit is oversized in most areas, possibly to give them room to repair excessive damage.
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Yugoslavian refurbs don't have the shellac, but instead have that dark look and sanding marks. On mine it looks like they used 50 or 60 grit, you can see the marks. Thus the original cartouches are mostly gone, though on mine the numbers were restamped along with another marking and in addition they left the buttplate in the white, which are details that differ from yours.
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