Pattern 14 rifles in Canadian service

[#1oilman]

Can any of the Canadian military arms experts tell me how many Pattern 14 rifles were purchased by the Canadian government?

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[RC20]

Good question. I have never come across anything that indicated it was issued in Canada.

All production I believe went to the UK. Canadian rear guard troops and secondary duty likely issued it there.

There seems to have been a second hand market but not official back transfer. Be interested to see if there is more.

[RC20]

What sleuthing I could do shows that the SMLE was not allowed to be made in Canada prior to WWI, the Ross rifle served instead.

Re-issue to SMLE after issues with it in WWI Service. But no mention of any P14 going to Canada.

Oddly the British purchased the majority of the Ross rifles so that's an unexplained oddity.

Maybe like the P14, they took what they could get before they realized they could produce the needed SMLE for main battle use and relegated them to second line service.

[green]

"Defending the Dominion" gives Cdn acquisition of P14s as 95 total.

[Melanie_Daniels]

95 sniper rifles with the Warner & Swasey Scope.

In WWII Canada used the M1917 rifle (and called it P. 17) - they were easyer to get.

[RC20]

The P17s did see a lot of Canadian Service in Canada. I think I have seen 4 or 5 entities that had them (one was Forrest Service of some type)

[browningautorifle]

My past father in law was issued an M1917 rifle during his time posted as a driver to a camp at the agricultural farm at Fredericton NB. They practised playing soldier on Sundays across the road in a still open field... The P14s found issue with the PCMR during WW2, also M1917s, Savage lever actions, '94 Carbines, several other types...

[#1oilman]

have seen quite a few PCMR Winchester 94 carbines Marlin 336 and a few Winchester model 64's. A good friend of mine picked up a consecutive numbered pair of 94's off two different tables at Calgary last year.

[browningautorifle]

a consecutive numbered pair of 94's off two different tables at Calgary last year.

That would have been very neat...

[#1oilman]

Couldn't believe his eyes, looked at one then walked on got to the other side of the show, found another thought the SN looked familiar ran back to check the first one he had seen. Next thing I saw was him grinning ear to ear carrying two carbines back to our table. I think he is trying to corner the market on them. If you are at the Calgary show this year Jim stop by and say hello, we are usually set up on an end cap right across from the show directors booth.I will have a display on the Battles of Duck Lake and Fish Creek.