I just came into possession of a IBM carbine tell me about it

[Thumper]

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What parts should be on it, flat/round bolt, type slide etc.

Eager to learn about this one, never owned an IBM.

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[painter777]

Late here..... But for now,
Here's a link to a later one than yours but interesting reading and pictures.

https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=51285

[deldriver]

IBM used round bolts first (late 43), but yours is early enough that it should have gotten a flat one. As I always say though you never know.

[Thumper]

thanks

[painter777]

IBM Barrel?
Is your barrel dated ?
8-43 or 9-43 ?

[Thumper]

It is dated 1-44

[Sunray]

Go here. The U.S. Caliber .30 Carbines
The really important part is that IBM only made 19 of the 60 something parts, including the receiver(and Auto Ordnance made some of those). So there's no such thing as an "all original" or "all correct" IBM made Carbine. Carbine parts were made by everybody and his brother in small shops all over the Eastern US.
IBM didn't date all their barrels either.

[painter777]

Sunray,
Wouldn't you consider Original as how something was/is presented as a finished, completed, accepted product?

So there's no such thing as an "all original" or "all correct" IBM made Carbine. Carbine parts were made by everybody and his brother in small shops

In trying to understand your statement above,
I think the key may be your use of the word 'All',
Has to be because there are Originals and there is Correct.
Original as accepted with the same configuration (correct) of parts in or on it as when it was accepted.

Your statement comes off like you saying the new Ford truck in the driveway isn't a 'Original' Ford because not all the parts were made by Ford ?

If so then the Mona Lisa couldn't be an Original piece of art painted by Leonardo da Vinci, if you take in to account that he didn't make the canvas or oils to paint it.

You grind in your 'No such thing as all original' every time someone brings up the mention of Original. Then refer them to the Collectors forum which includes many of us who have studied the carbines since the 70's. Come on..... give it a rest.

Everyone knows it took the sub contractors supplying the prime makers parts to produce these War time carbines.

[Thumper]

Besides it doesn't much matter in this topic. The OP is swapping parts quicker than we can type these replies.[/QUOTE]


Painter..thank you for your "insight" and critique as a medium, however, you need to take a rest. I have not replaced or swapped any part of this carbine. I am trying to learn about IBM and their part in building this rifle.

[painter777]

I have not replaced or swapped any part of this carbine

Thumper,
Oct 31st over on the CMP forum you gave a lot of detail about a Inland you were checking out at a local pawn store. Included the serial range, condition of the park, type of bolt, frt sight, barrel band, stock, muzzle and chamber measurements, along with how tight the action was...etc. Plus accessories that come with it.
I found an M1 carbine at a pawn shop - CMP Forums

Then nearly a week Before you post it here you had posted (11-2) on the CMP again but this time asking about your new IBM.
I don't blame you for getting multiple opinions, I would do the same.
In that post you asked if a Inland 1-44 barrel could have been original to your new IBM.
Followed by plenty of replies by some of the best in the carbine collecting field.
? about a IBM carbine - CMP Forums

But here you start a topic:
I just came into possession of a IBM carbine tell me about it.
With no description or mention of it's current configuration.
You gave us the makers name and partial serial number and asked "Tell me about it".
Got to admit very minimal information to go by.
Trying to gather more about this IBM from you has been like pulling teeth.
Then I see that 2 hrs after you started this topic that you posted a WTB for a IBM bolt.
We can only guess at what it is that you want to know..... or are up to.

What do you want to know?
Is it how your carbine would have been when accepted?
Or are you trying to research IBM Corporation's War time contributions?

I don't know, can't read your mind even though you seem to believe I have some level of "Medium" skills.
Now I do know that we'd like to see and hear more about your new find.
That's a early IBM and was built in a critical time period for M1 carbines.
I hope it shakes out and is a good one for you.

I'll try a Holiday Inn tonight and get that rest you suggested.