No. 4 Mk. 1 Question

[fndrbass19]

i was heading home to visit family and saw a pawnshop i never knew existed and went inside to take a quick look at the guns they were advertising on the sign. they had what appeared to be a super clean no 4 mk 1 (i didn't get the year ) with an excellent bore, great bluing, and no significant dings or nicks to be seen.

he said it was canadian, but i didn't have my phone with me to get any snapshots. the pricetag said $450 and since i'm no enfield expert i figured i would find out what you all think about that price. i'll probably pop by again tomorrow to take some pics so i can have something to reference.

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[GregM]

I'm pretty much a newbie with the Enfield Rifles, but I think thats about $100 too much. I had just browsed a sponsor's site here on this board, and they have most of their Longbranch(canadian) no.4's at $350ish, and a few at $250. Unless its absolutely pristine and something special, i'd say its a tad too much, judging from whats out there. The good part though is you can go over it, and you take a chance of getting a turd if you go with an online deal.

GregM

[fndrbass19]

right on. i appreciate the heads up. like i said, i'm going back (probably tomorrow) to get another look and snag a few pics.

[madcratebuilder]

Canadian=Long Branch, more than likely a No4 MkI* Long Branch. While the MkI LB would be worth more, $450 seems awfully high for a MkI* LB. It would have to be pristine, late production, park finish, for me to pay that. One in average condition should be under $300 IMHO. Well under, they 900k of them.

[jmoore]

That's the problem, we don't know what it is! It's sometimes hard to quickly evaluate a rifle in person, much less w/o knowing EXACTLY what it is. (Could be a mismatched FTR, or a scopeless sniper.)

I.e.- I'm looking to buy a blue Chevrolet, I think it's a two door....how much should I pay?

More info, please!

[fndrbass19]

ok, it's a 1949 Longbranch no 4 mk1* and even though the tag said $450 when i asked him how much it cost he told me $350. the bore looks to be in fantastic shape, and all the parts are matching and seem to be there (minus the bayonet). i have some pics i'll load on my computer and put up very shortly.

[fndrbass19]

here are some crappy phone pictures. sorry for the amazing quality of these.

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[jmoore]

OK, then! Good year- sort of a "pre-1950" but different.(As in rather less common and more likely to have "new" WWII Long Branch parts, plus there's variations even in the "1950" LB.)

Sounds reasonable enough...

I'd buy it unless there's some missing drama that's not evident so far. (Spinecracker might fill you in on the perils of internet advice regarding rifle buys...and incomplete descriptions!)

Here's a handy MKL entry on just such a rifle (slightly "modded" by the DCRA) for you- link below: (Be sure to do the 85pic photo tour- quite helpful it is.)

1949 C No.4 Mk1* Long Branch Rifle - Military Surplus Collectors Forums

This is the more common 1950 version, but it's more "stock" and may be a better data source, although its rather late in the run-

1950 C No.4 Mk1* Long Branch Rifle - Military Surplus Collectors Forums

[spinecracker]

(Spinecracker might fill you in on the perils of internet advice regarding rifle buys...and incomplete descriptions!)

I'm learning, ok????

Besides, I have not actually been burned too bad (slightly singed, maybe) - the people here help keep me on the straight and narrow lol. Then again, I did buy my Enforcer without even seeing a photo of it, but the seller was true to his word, and it is a lovely rifle in excellent condition. Now all I need to do is save up my pennies and buy the other one he has (drools greedily)

[fndrbass19]

cool. i appreciate the advice since i'm new to the enfield fan club. i bought a super nice 1917 Enfield-made R.S.A.F. no1 mkIII* that i kinda fell in love with, and then i came across this one and felt like i needed to do some research.