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    Keeping your Monarchs straight!

    Print out and take with you when you are trying to figure out what Britishicon Monarch goes with what year on the Enfields!! Remember that George V's son (Edward VIII) was only in power one year (1936). Edward abdicated his throne. Thus no coin that I know of...

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    Here I was, looking at a thread about keeping our monarchs straight wondering if we had any bent ones ............ well, bent that we know of! Is there a coin collection that will identify bent monarchs as opposed to 'straight' ones. A couple of bent prince's seem to have hit the headlines recently.

    For those untamed antipodeans, wild colonials and other savage foreigners, 'bent' = '.....batting for the other side..........'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    Here I was, looking at a thread about keeping our monarchs straight wondering if we had any bent ones ............ well, bent that we know of! Is there a coin collection that will identify bent monarchs as opposed to 'straight' ones. A couple of bent prince's seem to have hit the headlines recently.

    For those untamed antipodeans, wild colonials and other savage foreigners, 'bent' = '.....batting for the other side..........'
    Can we send all the bent ones back for some warranty work.

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    Of course "bent" can also mean "not straight" as in: "I got it cheap 'cos it was was a bit 'ookey."

    BTW, Edward the VIII didn't even make a whole year: roughly Mid-January to mid-December 1936.

    On that subject, I quite like Helena Bonham-Carter but the Queen Mum she ain't. As Bellatrix Lestrange (nee Black) - that's another matter.
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    Can't recall any bent ones, except a Duke who rhymed with it!

    Problem seems to be more that the paparazzi can't let them "unbend" with sticking a lens in their ears.

    "But seriously folks..."

    I've wondered why we don't see "VRI" rather than just "VR"?

    Then again, why not ERI and GRI either - except on the Ishapores of course.

    It was on the coins, you'd think it would have been on the rifles...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    I've wondered why we don't see "VRI" rather than just "VR"?

    Then again, why not ERI and GRI either - except on the Ishapores of course.

    It was on the coins, you'd think it would have been on the rifles...
    I don't remember seeing "I" on coins either other than as below.

    I believe it to be generally accepted that because there is no knowing whether there will be a "Second" or a "Third", one doesn't call the first monarch "the First"

    The "I" after some monarchs' name refers to Imperator. That is to say Emperor (or Empress) of India. (From Victoria from 1876 until George VI in 1947.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerhunter View Post
    I don't remember seeing "I" on coins either other than as below.

    I believe it to be generally accepted that because there is no knowing whether there will be a "Second" or a "Third", one doesn't call the first monarch "the First"

    The "I" after some monarchs' name refers to Imperator. That is to say Emperor (or Empress) of India. (From Victoria from 1876 until George VI in 1947.)
    No "I"s I realize, but the full title: "ET. IND. IMP." "Imperator" (or "Imperatrix" for Queen Victoria), so the rifles would not have been much of a stretch, heraldically speaking. Perhaps the possible confusion of the "I" with the regnal number "1" was the reason as mentioned.

    If anyone cares the "F.D." is "Fidei(?) Defensor" - "Defendor of the Faith", the title the Pope gave Henry VIII for his pamphleteering before he decided to add spiritual to his temporal powers.
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    ERI No.1 Mark III

    There were some No.1 Mark III rifles made in 1936 in India with the ERI stamping. Here is one of mine.
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    It would seem that the date was considered more important than the monarch! This is from a Martini Enfield cavalry carbine issued to the Natal Volunteers. Probably using up parts already in stock.

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    That seems to be about it Beery. A bit like rifle parts. STRIKER is still striker and when a Mk2 striker comes out, it's known as STRIKER, Mk2. The original one is then named generically as the STRIKER, Mk1

    We still have VRI on some old post boxes. Anyway, you get my drift..................

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