Turkish Peabody Martini in 7.62 X 54 Russian.

[Albayo]

I have a Peabody Martini full wood in 7.62 X 54R. It has Turkish markings on the metal and is in VG condition outside. The bore is another thing it looks really rough, I have it soaking with solvents to loosen it up.
Are the 7.62 X 54R Martinis rare?
Whats the best way to remove rust from a barrel?

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[Patrick Chadwick]

Are the 7.62 X 54R Martinis rare?

Uh, well, not so much rare as non-existent!

The Peabody-Martinis were built for Turkey in the 1870s, in a chambering described as 11.43x55R. Another source says 11.43x41R. Quite possibly the cartridge was originally 41mm long, and later increased in length. In any case, after such a long time you would need to check the chamber before trying anything.

But one thing is sure: the Peabody Martini was a black-powder rifle. 7.62.x54R was the cartridge introduced with the Mosin-Nagant of 1891, as a smokeless cartridge. So please forgive me if I ask you: how do you know it is chambered in 7.62.x54R? An original Peabody barrel cannot be chambered to this size - it would have to have a liner fitted. Or maybe someone got really creative with a Mosin-Nagant barrel? Or fitted an Egyptian 303 Martini-Enfield barrel?

Please check really carefully what you actually have. Nothing is impossible when Bubba's around, but this sounds improbable.

Patrick

[TheDoubleD]

There are 7.65 x 53 Martini's used by the Turks. The were modified by Styer and have a special two stage extractor.

I would not call them rare, but they are uncommon.

[Patrick Chadwick]

The were modified by Styer and have a special two stage extractor.

Were the original barrels lined, or did Steyr make new barrels?

[green]

Were the original barrels lined, or did Steyr make new barrels?

The 7.65 Martinis were fitted with a new barrel with the external dimensions of a small bore Mauser(Turk M1903?) and sleeved at the muzzle to take the Turk socket or sword bayonet.

[TheDoubleD]

The 7.65 Martinis were fitted with a new barrel with the external dimensions of a small bore Mauser(Turk M1903?) and sleeved at the muzzle to take the Turk socket or sword bayonet.

The barrels were sleeved for the Bayonet? The British method was to sleeve the bayonet socket.

How did they deal with the larger receiver ring of the Martini?

[barbarossa]

Way cool Albayo! Post some pics of your rifle, please! A very uncommon conversion, indeed!

[Patrick Chadwick]

Well at least they didn't do this to the Peabody Martinis:

http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=3363624

[william]

See-e-guns in German- you can be rewarded for taking a perfectly good design and absolutely "dogging it to death". would love to see the plans.

[Patrick Chadwick]

See-e-guns in German- you can be rewarded for taking a perfectly good design and absolutely "dogging it to death".

Da habe ich gar nichts verstanden! Could you please explain?

Patrick