Renumbered or Reworked M1 Serial Number?

[jesse_]

Greetings all, I recently offered to date a buddy's M1 as I found your "born on" thread. The pictures he sent indicate that the receiver is a '37 production. Is this legit? Did Springfield ever rework numbers? Federal Ord prehaps?

Center number has been erased.

Thanks in advance,
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[browningautorifle]

That receiver is a Geneseo Ill. work and was never a military item.

[jesse_]

Can you fill me in a bit on the Geneseo? This M1 was bought in the late '70s.

Much Abliged,
Jesse

[browningautorifle]

Springfield Armory* became a civilian venture when the name was purchased and the production of rifles began. The date is about 1974. Anyway, they proceeded to make M1s like yours and the numbers were up in the 7 millions. This confused some people that thought there were considerably less M1s manufactured. They were correct. The rifles manufactured were of an excellent standard as far as I know and a friend of mine has one. His is all military parts of all manufactures including a D28290 trigger mech with small hole and no revision numbers. (Early) I know, I found it and installed it for him. They also make M1As and handguns. Yours has the * after the Springfield Armory so it's one of these. I think it's actually an R in a circle but I can't make that on here.

[jesse_]

Thanks you so much Jim. I am here to benefit from those who know. If the serial numbers started in the 7 millions, did they decide to start over again at some point?

I have the fullsized pic and it appears to have a T within the circle.

I guess an early gas trap reciever would be too good to be true!!!

Regards,
Jesse

[browningautorifle]

T in the circle means trademark. They continued the numbering from where they left off after Korea. I don't understand the 3 digit number but there's more than meets the eye from what I can make out.

[Ramboueille]

T in the circle means trademark. They continued the numbering from where they left off after Korea. I don't understand the 3 digit number but there's more than meets the eye from what I can make out.

Jim,

When SA, INC. Geneseo, IL., started production on new cast receivers, they were duplicating military M! receiver serial numbers. BATF told them early-on to start a 7,000,000, well after military M1 serial numbering was over. It's unknown how many 3-digits were made, perhaps 500 or so.

[browningautorifle]

It's unknown how many 3-digits were made, perhaps 500 or so.

That's the first I heard of it. Thanks for the info.

Jesse, I can't tell if your gas cylinder was modified or not but I thought they would have done the bayonets. Maybe not. You can get replacement parts easily through our WTB here. Make sure you state what you have and the guys will come forward with proper parts.

[jesse_]

Jim,

When SA, INC. Geneseo, IL., started production on new cast receivers, they were duplicating military M! receiver serial numbers. BATF told them early-on to start a 7,000,000, well after military M1 serial numbering was over. It's unknown how many 3-digits were made, perhaps 500 or so.

Ramboueille,

So Geneseo started duplicating original M1 reciever numbers by starting over with low numbers and then forced to go to 7M?

Also any idea on what the steel would have been on the earlys? Triple alloy like an 8720, 8740?

[Ramboueille]

Ramboueille,

So Geneseo started duplicating original M1 reciever numbers by starting over with low numbers and then forced to go to 7M?

Also any idea on what the steel would have been on the earlys? Triple alloy like an 8720, 8740?

Jesse,

Yes.

Unknown what steel they used for the new receivers. I know that a year or two after the directive to use the 7 million block, SA, INC. tried to buy back the 3 digit receivers. A small group of us had already bought several of them and on a routine phone call to SA, INC about obtaining some parts for them, they asked what our serial numbers were and made an offer to buy them back. I don't remember what the offer was. None of us returned them.