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    Mystery Enfield??????????

    Folks,

    A friend of mine has sent me the following pics.

    Anybody got any ideas as to what it is

    Cheers,

    Simon.

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    Wasn't that the prototype of the emergency rifle, like the Faulkner Bren, to be manufactured should the Boche arrive uninvited in 1940

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    Peter,

    Do you have an example in the Weapons Collection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    Wasn't that the prototype of the emergency rifle, like the Faulkner Bren, to be manufactured should the Boche arrive uninvited in 1940
    So Peter was the design easier to manufacture or what? Please tell us more.

    I must say I would really like to get my hands on one.
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    We don't have one but we have a BESAL/Faulkner Bren.

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    BSA simplified rifle

    This is very different from the BSA simplified rifle I have and the other one I have seen at the Pattern Room.
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    Wow, thats something neat you don't see every day. How rare/collectible/valuable is it?

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    It was just a suggestion Paul but there are similarities don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    It was just a suggestion Paul but there are similarities don't you think?
    Peter a few things bother me about this rifle. I am not saying it is a fake. I just wonder about the some if its features. If it is a WWII attempt at a cost reduced rifle, why include the volley sights and the shape of the nose cap does not appear to be cost reduced (considering weight and machine time for the various radiused surfaces). Barrel markings might be enlighteing.

    Afganistan/Dara manufacture? That is a fascinating question. Someone with access could get them to make anything. Their appearance quality has greatly improved. I could see something like this being made up (or a group with "design" variations) and introduced into the collecting community. Certainly there is no way to prove what is correct or not.

    I wish someone had a copy of the Navy Arms sales catalog that offered the Greener Factory Collection ---it might prove interesting.
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    Thanks Simon. Your friend sent them to me as well, but I must admit I've no idea about it. Just to my untrained eye it does not really look to me as though it would be appreciably quicker/easier to make than a standard SMLE; many of the parts are existing SMLE or modified SMLE anyway. And the nose cap does not look any easier to make than a conventional SMLE version...Most odd. It reminds me a little of those SMLE/Mauser hybrids the Turks made out of captured rifles. But yes, I must also admit it looks a little reminiscent of PB's rifle.....but rather LESS simplified.

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