Receiver hung v trigger guard hung trigger ?

[Rumpelhardt]

Wondering what the thoughts on how much of an advantage a receiver hung trigger is over a properly set up guard hung trigger on a No.4 as it pertains to a target rifle?

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[Peter Laidler]

There has been a lot of discussion about this in the past on this forum. But basically, once the trigger is set up on a Mk1/2 1/3 and 2, it's correct pretty well forever. But the real purpose was - so said - that it enabled the trigger pressures/pulls to be adjusted and set at the factory using unskilled and therefore cheaper labour. Prior to the modification, even the slightest adjustment needed a skilled 'setter' to strip the rifle, re-adjust, reassemble, test and repeat the process. There's more to it than that but that's the jist of it

[Thunderbox]

The overwhelming majority of No4 SRb target rifles that i have encountered have been No4 Mk1s/1*s. That might reflect that Mk1/1*s came to the surplus market earlier than Mk2s, but it also seems to indicate that the triggerguard trigger was just fine for the gunsmiths and top-class shooters of the day.

I think with milsurps, perhaps unlike with modern target and precision weapons, there is also the military habit of fitting yourself to the rifle, rather than fitting the rifle to yourself. I personally never try to polish or improve a trigger thats within specification, I just adapt to the existing trigger pull. Enfields are what they are...

[villiers]

On an older rifle, the trigger guard often needs to be tightened or adjusted and this does change the trigger pull. Of my two No. 5 LEs, one is .303 with the original trigger guard and is perfectly set up the way I want it. But I wouldn´t like to take it out for any length of time in any weather (i.e. under service conditions). The second (.308) has an action hung trigger. It feels just a bit different ("brittle" or "harder") but I regard it being independent of the trigger guard bolt as a great advantage.

[Peter Laidler]

What TBox says.......... well, what everyone says is right in their own ways of course. The trouble is that WesternEurope has a steady ambient temperature. The trouble lays when it's wet and dry in equal measure then there's cold wet and warm wet, bitter dry cold and bitter wet cold. That's when you really start to notice how wood REALLY warps. You could even feel this with supposedly well seasoned L1A1 rifle early solid wood handguards. Unscrewing the screw would and could be so tight that it'd chew the head up, simply because the handguard(s) had twisted/warped and were being held in check by the screw and reinforcing plates at the front. Get the screw undone and put them on the bench and you'd see that they'd be twisted/distorted beyond any further use.

That's why the trials and very first issuies of the laminated type of handguards was in Malaya.

We had a saying about wood in the tropics where it was always soaking................ 'There's only two sorts of wood. Wood that warped and wood that hasn't warped - yet!