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imarangemaster On a happier note: Ode to an... 03-23-2013, 04:49 PM
jmoore Should help reliability... 03-25-2013, 08:10 AM
browningautorifle I always thought the heavy... 03-25-2013, 12:21 PM
imarangemaster I have fired almost 400... 03-25-2013, 01:02 PM
Rumpelhardt Mine has the standard carbine... 03-25-2013, 02:06 PM
jmoore It slows the cycling, making... 03-25-2013, 05:09 PM
browningautorifle Sounds like it may make the... 03-25-2013, 06:52 PM
Rumpelhardt I get a small dent from the... 03-26-2013, 12:34 AM
imarangemaster Probably. Mine all now eject... 03-26-2013, 02:17 AM
langss What is the difference... 04-05-2013, 11:53 PM
imarangemaster A stadard Carbine buffer,... 04-06-2013, 12:15 AM
langss Would I be able to tell the... 04-07-2013, 12:54 AM
DaveN I bought an AR 15 ( Olympic... 04-12-2013, 01:19 AM
jmoore The usual way to do a quick... 04-12-2013, 03:06 AM
imarangemaster My H buffer has no markings,... 04-12-2013, 09:26 AM
DaveN Thanks, it's officially the... 04-12-2013, 07:41 PM
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    Wink On a happier note: Ode to an "H" buffer in the carbine!

    I stopped by the gravel pit up in my patrol area to try my new 3.5 ounce H buffer I put in my M4gery patrol carbine: to see how it functioned, if I noticed any difference in feel/performance , and also to check zero one more time.

    Zero was dead on with the Taco Accupoint red dot, shattering a clay pigeon at about 100 yards with the first shot. I continued to plink the rest of a 30 round magazine (as much as I dare with the ammo situation). I noticed three things:

    1) They ejection pattern was different from a 3 ounce buffer, cases landing neatly at 1:30 to 2:30 or so, rather than 4 o'clock to 5 o'clock like the 3 ounce.

    2) The action was definitely smoother feeling and noticeably quieter during cycling.

    3) The overall experience was more like shooting my retro 1/12" twist 602 clone with its 20 inch barrel and rifle buffer. Shooting a carbine with a standard buffer, there is more felt recoil from the buffer slamming to the rear, even with a USGI spring. The whole platform seems just "on the edge" with the standard buffer. With the H buffer, the felt experience was totally different. More "controlled" and more self assured!
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    Should help reliability overall as well, but many shooters would never fire enough to find out.

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    I always thought the heavy was for full auto with short barrels. This is very interesting though. Maybe I should try it...
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    I have fired almost 400 rounds (ammo bought when it was cheap) through this build since I assembled it, so I could know I had 100% reliability for a duty weapon. I believe the H buffers were designed to reduce jump in full auto, but it works really well on the semi, to I was really amazing the difference from using an H buffer and M16icon carrier, and a light buffer and AR15 carrier.

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    Mine has the standard carbine buffer. The more I read the more I think I might try the H buffer. They're not much money so the wife shouldn't give me too hard a time.

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    It slows the cycling, making life easier on the extractor, as residual pressures in the chamber are less. Still higher than the 20", but it helps.

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    Sounds like it may make the brass happier too...for re-loading.
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    I get a small dent from the brass deflector. Maybe this would help?

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    Probably. Mine all now eject to 1:30 to 2:30 instead of 4 to 5 o'clock.

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    What is the difference between the standard Buffer and the "H" Buffer. All of my AR's that I put together I just used what came with the kit. I never knew there was any difference. Everything always worked.

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