What I'm trying to restore. No4 Mk1 Tr

[ncreptile]

Just picked up this No4 Mk1 Tr rifle. Serial number was sanded or buffed by century(importer) and because of this the 1944 is barely legible.. heck the last 4 could be a 2!.

Couple scope numbers on wrist. Mount is a reproduction. I'd like to find a reproduction scope(preferred over an original) for sub $800 thats good so I can take her out shooting.

K37637 is my rifle's serial number.
15502 is the scope number last on the rifle.

All in I paid $800 for this rifle. I hope USD thats a good price.

Anything you can tell me about it would be great.

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[browningautorifle]

$800 is good, I see standard rifles going for that now. Sling's a civvie though. You can find a repro 1907 that'll do for look and you can tie up in it for shooting and it won't break. Brownells has them for instance...repro scopes are around. Stand by...

[Seaforth72]

The Ishapose screw, through stock in front of and above magazine, indicates use of this No. 4 Mk. I (T) by India. They also had a reputation for "scrubbing" British markings. $800 is a good price in any country. It would attain a higher value with an original No.32 scope and bracket in the long run, even though scope and bracket
would not match.

[Ridolpho]

ncreptile: I love it and would have payed that in a heartbeat. Any other Pakistani parts on it in addition to the lower band? As far as a scope is concerned, you could slip a Weaver K3 into the bracket and be out shooting right away. I got a used one in mint condition for $200 and used it on a fake T for a while. The repro scopes cost a significant fraction of what you'll pay for a real one.

Ridolpho

[Surpmil]

Good buy in today's market. They seem to use sharpened spoons for scraping down rifle stocks over there. Cheaper than sand paper I suppose.

The pad screws have been reset once, a tad tighter, and the fact that they have been staked is slightly interesting as I was under the impression the Indians didn't stake theirs. Perhaps the Pakistanis did?

[Roger Payne]

Hmm. Well travelled, well loved but as honest as the day is long. Even though the serial has been re-stamped on the butt socket I suspect it is the original number simply re-stamped deeper, as a K prefix would be good for a 44 produced rifle. I know it's all indicative of its service history & I'll probably get slammed for it, but it if were mine I'd have to tidy up that woodwork a bit....!

ATB

[Beerhunter]

I'll probably get slammed for it, but it if were mine I'd have to tidy up that woodwork a bit....!

Grrrrrr! No probably about it Roger. You'll be getting a quote for the repair of Stone Henge next. :-)

[Roger Payne]

It's ok Beery, I've got my steel helmet on! I wouldn't want people to think that I refinish & refurbish rifles & scopes at the drop of a hat; indeed I'd rather have a good honest piece of kit any day than an article refinished to within an inch of its life, but I believe there comes a time when a rifle (or scope) is so tatty & bashed about that there is nothing to be lost in a sympathetic tidy up. Going back to the late great Pete Bloom era, the shed load of No32's that he got out of India spring to mind. Not to have tidied them up would have been a crime; similarly the big batch of partially stripped 4T barrelled actions we were fortunate enough to acquire all those years ago. I daresay Peter (L) wouldn't relish the prospect of repeating the job he did on all of Pete B's scopes, but I bet he's justifiably proud of turning a load of rusty junkers back into functional optical instruments again.

Maybe I'm quoting extremes here, as op's 4T isn't that bad, but perhaps a sympathetic degrease & a little work to lose the worst of those dings (& 'soften' those awful scraper marks).........???

Preparing for incoming!

ATB.

[Peter Laidler]

I agree with you Roger. A No4T or any rifle wouldn't ever get to that condition in Our Army. A bit beaten up, yes. Active service, yes, but that is a tad beyond acceptable

[Roger Payne]

Cheers Peter.

ATB.