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therno Stock repair ID question 04-12-2015, 05:43 PM
Warren Target shooter... 04-12-2015, 09:08 PM
Steve H. in N.Y. Regarding accurizing; the... 04-13-2015, 02:20 PM
Peter Laidler That's a brilliant suggestion... 04-13-2015, 05:55 PM
Vincent 61928 Yes. It's from an... 04-13-2015, 07:54 PM
therno Thanks the wood color does... 04-13-2015, 08:12 PM
SpikeDD I don't have enough knowledge... 04-13-2015, 09:30 PM
therno No Indian marks that I can... 04-13-2015, 08:01 PM
Baal It doesn't look like an... 04-13-2015, 09:00 PM
Vincent Were there any single shot... 04-13-2015, 11:14 PM
SpikeDD According to Edwards, of... 04-13-2015, 11:46 PM
therno The rifle was converted in... 04-14-2015, 03:30 PM
SpikeDD There may be some markings in... 04-14-2015, 09:20 PM
Peter Laidler But, back to the origins of... 04-14-2015, 04:11 AM
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    Stock repair ID question

    I have this a 1917 No1 made by RSAF Enfield that was converted to a .22 trainer in the 1920s. It has what looks like 4 dowel repairs to the stock? There are 2 on each side opposite rack other. What I can't figure out is why? There are no cracks in the stock and I have never seen repairs like this before. Any ideas on why it was done ? Thanks.

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    Target shooter accurizing.....
    Hardwood dowels
    Very common MANY years ago but not much now with all the new bedding compounds.

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    Regarding accurizing; the dowels look like they may not be located high enough to contact the sides of the receiver. Any possibility that the forend is from an Indian .410 with the wooden mag well block removed?

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    Yes. It's from an Indian .410. I pulled the one I have out of the Enfield safe and took the picture. There's no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
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    Yes. It's from an Indian .410. I pulled the one I have out of the Enfield safe and took the picture. There's no doubt.
    Thanks the wood color does match and the dowels look the same.

    So the question now is how did the stock from a Indian single shot end up on a .22 trainer? Does not seem like a logical replacement? Serial number on the bolt, receiver, and barrel all match. Sight is a force match and the noes cap is blank.

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    I don't have enough knowledge to contest any of the above so I am posting this for observational purposes only.

    The 4 examples I have all show the dowels in a lateral line, on plane with each other. The pic posted by Therno shows the dowels much closer together and offset. They look very much like the illustration posted a short while back about where to position the dowels for accurizing. Sorry for the horrible photos.

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    .410 RFI 1949
    .410 RFI 1948
    1904 BSA I** I.P. 410 RFI 1931
    1909 LSA I* I.P. S.L. RFI 1940( The dowels on this example are closer together than the others but still in line with each other )

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    Just found the illustration posted by Bruce-In-Oz.... not even close to what my brain remembered....sigh Attachment 61943
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    No Indian marks that I can see. I made a mistake in my original post. It is a BSA gun with a mix of BSA Sparkbrook replacement parts. No marks on the outside of the stock . Just a faint serial number on the under side. It does look like it had front volley sight(Pic 3)??????
    Here are some more pics if the stock and the inside with the mag out.

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    On I side not it has Brian Dickicon's import mark on the receiver

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    It doesn't look like an Indian 410 stock to me. Every example I've seen has the dowels in the same horizontal plane.

    The block of wood was glued as well as pegged into the mag well. Any sign that it has been cut out again? Doubt it.

    Edit. Just looked at the photos of the magazine well. I'm positive there was no block of wood glued and pegged in there. Dunno why this rifle has those dowels, but it's not Indian 410.
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    Were there any single shot .22’s converted in the same way the Indian .410’s were?

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