Chiappa 9mm M1 Carbine

[imarangemaster]

Since this is about another Chiappa made carbine, this topic is related to Jim's post about the new Inland. It is, however, worthy of its own thread. We talked about the Chiappa 9mm Carbine before (mainly about how fugly it is with its massive recoil system), but I don't recall anyone shooting it.

Here is a youtube review. It has issues and is a "Jam-O-Matic".

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[browningautorifle]

That's too bad. A 9mm would be great...not a new idea but I'd love to get one.

[Sleeplessnashadow]

Hi folks

I bought one of these about a year ago. I lose track of time. Took it out to the range and put about 300 rounds of American Eagle 115 grain FMJ through it. Had no problems with function. That trip was a function test. Range was indoors with only 20 yards distance. It kept a nice tight group of about 3" at that distance from a standing position.

Brought it home and took it apart to clean it before photos and found the bolts holding the 2 piece slide together has been cemented in. Got one out after a battle and found they used Loctite Green. I'm not a fan of having to use heat to remove bolts to clean a carbine. The carbine's bolt cannot be removed for cleaning unless the slide comes apart.

Instruction manual shows the field strip for cleaning stops after removing the action from the stock.

Had a heck of a time getting the other bolts out, even with heat. Had to replace the bolts due to the damage. Keep in mind the heat had to be applied to the slide while it was assembled to the carbine. The hex heads strip pretty easy. Clearly they did not want people removing the slide.

My work with the commercial carbine ground to a standstill at that point because of my work on the pics and pages for the USCarbinesInc.com website. There's a reason for the switch in directions which will become more apparent by the beginning of next year. Still haven't taken the pics. The "Inland" purchase was an unplanned for event. The 9mm was planned but interrupted due to the time and care involved in getting the slide apart.

I'm not ready to give a breakdown or overview of this carbine. The range time was a mild nice surprise. But the internal design of the thing sure wasn't. It was designed to be convenient to the manufacturer, not the end users. One of a combination of things that became a fatal mistake, as time has shown.

Regarding the beast of a slide, there's good reason for the weight and size. The carbine operates on the straight blowback priciple. The bolt has no lugs and it's fairly small in comparison to a .30 carbine bolt.

This isn't the first 9mm version of an M1 Carbine. Iver Johnson produced one back about 1984 using forged steel receivers made by Universal Firearms on a new CNC machine. The slide is heavily weighted on the bottom but without altering disassembly. Chiappa was aware of the Iver Johnson 9mm before they designed theirs.

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http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_ij9mm.html

I'm going to stop here as these commercial carbines have got to wait. I'm a one man 3 ring circus and have a lot of work yet on the GI carbine website with a time limit counting down.

Jim