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    Theoretical question about a CMP M1 Carbine

    This is strictly theoretical, but I'm curious...

    What would be the significance, if any, if someone received an M1icon carbine from the CMPicon and the receiver were marked as an M2?

    I've been looking around on the web, and it seems as though any receiver that carries the M2 mark is considered a machine gun (if not already registered as such). And if the item were to come from a dubious source, I would understand.

    However, would the CMP ship an M2-marked receiver to an individual? If so, what would the ramifications be? What recourse would there be?

    I would appreciate any help that anyone could offer.

    Again, just curious what would happen if this were to happen to someone.

    Thanks for the help.
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    Just theoretically, if it happened to me, I'd send it back to CMPicon and ask for a standard USGI M1icon.

    There's a wise old back woods adage: "Never get in a ****ing contest with a skunk."

    Don't mess around with guys who are more powerful than you. Its a game this theoretical individual would likely lose.

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    Theoretically an M2 marked receiver would be a free vacation to Club Fed. In reality it would be up to 10 years of free room and board. Years ago when DCM was releasing carbines, some that were marked M2 were sent out. ATF made DCM recall each of those carbines even though they were M1icon carbines but just marked M2. They were machine guns as far as ATF was concerned and were not registered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    Theoretically an M2 marked receiver would be a free vacation to Club Fed. In reality it would be up to 10 years of free room and board. Years ago when DCM was releasing carbines, some that were marked M2 were sent out. ATF made DCM recall each of those carbines even though they were M1icon carbines but just marked M2. They were machine guns as far as ATF was concerned and were not registered.
    Bruce, Theoretically that Sounds to be Correct, but if it was changed to a all M1 or if they just removed the parts to make it a M2. It still has been registered as a M2 with its S/N or the Mark of M2 than once a M2 it will always be a M2 Correct even though it came from CMPicon it doesn't matter Right. Theoretically if you received a Carbine and it's all M1 and never no had no signs or features of it ever being a M2, but has the Mark you should you turn it in also ?

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    Has the CMPicon ever been known to do this in the recent past (as in post-DCM days)? It strikes me as odd that something like this could theoretically happen. Surely the CMP has.come across M2 marked receivers in the past, so did they sell them as M1s or destroy them or what? Does the CMP record that they have manufactured or handled M2 "machine guns".

    Again, this is strictly a what-if type question.

    Thanks for the responses so far.

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    If you receive an M2 receiver from CMPicon, do not accept it. Have the FFL send it back and they will have to replace it. Most likely you will just send the whole carbine. It doesn't matter if it doesn't have the M2 parts - if the receiver is marked 'M2' or ever was marked 'M2', the receiver is a machine gun. I don't know how it could possibly be stated any more clear than that. Additionally, possession of all the M2 parts needed to make an M1icon into an M2, while also possessing an M1 Carbine receiver, is possession of a machine gun.

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    Thanks to everyone for the input. I'm glad this is just a hypothetical case. It sounds like a pain in the neck if it were to happen to someone.

    Thanks again.

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    When I got my carbine in 1992, I thought it would be cool to have the M2 parts, so I bought a couple of them before I found out what I just told you. I got rid of them fast and never thought about it again.

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