Question regarding the other steels used in a Lee Enfield

[kilopi505]

Hello everyone.

I'm doing research for this story I'm writing, and I found myself needing to know the material specs of the SMLE Mark 3.

And thankfully I found the UR thread that talks about the material specs of the Lee Enfield on the internet on this thread of this website:

https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=13115

Now my question is had all the steels other than the B.S.S.5005/401 been figured out? As in, are their modern equivalents discovered?

What is Steel. D.D.8? What is Steel B.S.S.5005/103?

Please respond.

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[muffett.2008]

I have two sets of Spec's on Enfield steel.
S.A.F(Australian) and British O.F, the Oz spec's run from SAF 1 to SAF 11 and give the list of components for each.
The British spec's only give the analysis breakdown and need to be cross referenced against a known listing, such as the SAF series.

In OZ,BSS 5005/401 would equate to SAF No.7, BSS 5005/103 equates to SAF No.1 and DD8 equates to SAF No.7

[kilopi505]

I have two sets of Spec's on Enfield steel.
S.A.F(Australian) and British O.F, the Oz spec's run from SAF 1 to SAF 11 and give the list of components for each.
The British spec's only give the analysis breakdown and need to be cross referenced against a known listing, such as the SAF series.

In OZ,BSS 5005/401 would equate to SAF No.7, BSS 5005/103 equates to SAF No.1 and DD8 equates to SAF No.7

Is the SAF mentioned here the Sandvik company of Sweden? Or is it an acronym for something else?

Edit:

Is SAF No.7 this ? Sanicro 70 — Sandvik Materials Technology


...and I can't find SAF No. 1 because all the names are changed, I think.

[Lee Enfield]

Is the SAF mentioned here the Sandvik company of Sweden? Or is it an acronym for something else?

Edit:

Is SAF No.7 this ? Sanicro 70 — Sandvik Materials Technology


...and I can't find SAF No. 1 because all the names are changed, I think.

You are dealing with a time period where there were no international material standards as such.
In addition, steel manufacturers closely guarded their alloying information as trade secrets.

You will not be able to directly cross reference a current material standard to an historic material without access to the historic materials alloy information.

[muffett.2008]

No, SAF is Small Arms Factory (Lithgow, Australia)
OF is Ordnance Factory.....England

[kilopi505]

You are dealing with a time period where there were no international material standards as such.
In addition, steel manufacturers closely guarded their alloying information as trade secrets.

You will not be able to directly cross reference a current material standard to an historic material without access to the historic materials alloy information.

No, SAF is Small Arms Factory (Lithgow, Australia)
OF is Ordnance Factory.....England

I see.

Thank you two for the lead and advice. I'll try to send an E-mail to SAF Lithgow Museum and ask.

[muffett.2008]

I will scan the two files I have, I'm sure Badger can find a place for them so others can have access also.

Won't happen until tomorrow though.

[kilopi505]

I will scan the two files I have, I'm sure Badger can find a place for them so others can have access also.

Won't happen until tomorrow though.

Where are you going to post it? Here?

[muffett.2008]

Haven't forgotten, wasted a day trying to get the file to Badger, finally had to break it into parts as it was to big.

If he received it he will post it on the forum somewhere in a day or two.

[kilopi505]

Haven't forgotten, wasted a day trying to get the file to Badger, finally had to break it into parts as it was to big.

If he received it he will post it on the forum somewhere in a day or two.

Why not upload something to Mediafire or Dropbox, and then post the link here? That should work to.