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    Just for fun
    Does anyone know the average speed of an M1icon oprod using M2 Ball ammo?



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    a quick calculation if you use the cyclic rate of a t31 which is approximately600 rounds per minute - or 10 rounds a second - oprod travel is 8.66 inches per cycle - so the rate is 86.6 inches a second which = 5 miles per hour

    very rough calculation

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    Quote Originally Posted by cary m2a View Post
    Just for fun
    Does anyone know the average speed of an M1icon oprod using M2 Ball ammo?



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    Seems like I read sometime back about 26 feet per second.

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    86.6 (inches per second) = 7.21666667 feet per second that was with a cyclic rate of 600 rounds per minute

    M14icon was 750 rounds per minute

    26 fps is mighty fast be very intrested if you could find that spec published somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark in Rochester View Post
    86.6 (inches per second) = 7.21666667

    26 fps is mighty fast be very intrested if you could find that spec published somewhere

    I'll see if I can find that again. May take just aa little bit.
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    This is the only place I can find it for now. This may be the article I was thinking of.
    http://www.scott-duff.com/oprods.htm
    Mark I see where your figure is from but would there not be a little idle time at the end of the cycle therefore increasing the speed figure?
    I'm no mathematician, this is just something I read.

    It's about half way down the page.

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    Ok Rob

    That makes more sense "the maximum speed is under 26 feet per second"

    I would expect the maximum speed would result in the pressure stroke of the op-rod and the return stroke would be less.

    what I was trying to calculate was average

    yes there would be a small idle time as the op-rod reverses direction - this would have the opposite effect - if the cycle time was longer there would be less cycles per minute or second

    so lets say we have 8 cycles in 20 seconds

    so back and forward is 8.66 inches each time so (8*8.66) 69.3 inches in 20
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    Now lets increase the time and say we have 8 cycles in 30 seconds 69.3 inches in 30 seconds. more time to travel the same distance.


    think that is correct

    I will see if I can find the springfield study

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