MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR

[Gil Boyd]

Have a good one guys and I hope Santa brought you all the guns, ammo and ancillaries you wished for.
Stay Safe and see you on the other side. Keep your powder dry!!

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[Ovidio]

Ciao Gyl,

thanks.
I wish you and all our friends here merry Christmas and the happiest new year they ever had!

God bless us all,

Ovidio

[browningautorifle]

Same to you folk and yours. I just returned from the range myself...

[Gil Boyd]

Jim,
We go into Tier 4 tomorrow morning at 0001hrs nearly all of the UK. Now if we could only stay there to get this critter under control !!!!

With no communications like we have today, it does make you wonder how our fore fathers dealt with the Spanish Flu pandemic after WW1 into 1920!!

Stay Safe

[Aragorn243]

As with everything else this year, this was a very subdued Christmas. We didn't go to Christmas eve service for the first time that I can remember, I even went the year I had the big surgery. We watched a service on TV but it wasn't the same. We basically didn't leave the house either other than to take the trash out or recover a couple of small tools from my truck. No kids for the first time ever, no visitors at all. Kind of like the Grinch stole Christmas. Just not feeling it. We sat, watched movies, ate and I searched for things on the computer. Didn't find much.

Grandson's presents are still all here as are all the kids. I realize as the kids grow older this happens but they both live about 20 minutes away and this is tough. Trying to follow the rules, my son in law is waiting on test results as a co-worker tested positive. New Years is looking a bit more promising, the youngest daughter will be getting together with us at least.

[browningautorifle]

Grandson's presents are still all here as are all the kids.

I was able to hand off everything for the grandkids to my son as he went home Christmas eve so that worked out. They sent pics of everything happening. We were alone here, but had each other.

[CINDERS]

I feel for you all we here in West Au have been very lucky due to our premier towing the hard line its worked we had a family breakfast at the M/inlaw as my wifes father passed in January so it was a bit strange not to have him there it was for the grandkids anyway watching them get the presents. My wife and I came home and watched movies and just chilled out, I got grand ideas of cleaning up my large shells and cartridges from a bit of dust took one look at the task and said stuff that! We went for a good ride today I am missing my V4 Ducati badly but it was good to put my wife up front so she was leading and calling the gravel or honkey nuts or mobile lounge rooms (Cars). Don't laugh at the honkey nuts the cockatoo's drop enough of them from a tree to put you down onto the tar if your not watching for them for the nuts that is.

Hopefully the vaccine will see the demise of this thing but I feel the way it mutates its going to be a long time before our whole world gets back to a somewhat even kilter as there is always chaos going on somewhere in the world. In the U.S I don't really know how your going to control the populace enough to make them realise this virus is not a joke and must be treated as a substantial threat. We hear over the news the U.S health system is near collapse as are the medical staff with so many americans afflicted with the damn thing I really feel for you guys over there and the U.K.

[Aragorn243]

We hear over the news the U.S health system is near collapse as are the medical staff with so many americans afflicted with the damn thing I really feel for you guys over there and the U.K.

No need to feel bad for us. We aren't the ones being locked in our home areas. You're getting very bad information, probably to keep you from complaining.

Life here is pretty much normal with two basic exceptions, you have to wear a mask whenever you go into a store and a lot of restaurants, and other entertainment facilities are closed down.

There is no near collapse of the health care system, in fact, a lot of nurses and doctors have been laid off as the politicians have decided that hospitals can no longer do non-emergency procedures so the space is available for the flood of covid patients that never materialize.

The media likes to find one hospital somewhere that is near capacity and go there and find all the nurses and staff that like to bitch and moan about everything and then portray it as normal when it isn't. Hospital in the next county has plenty of space, etc and the nurses there will tell you they have Covid patients but nothing out of the ordinary.

It's all politics, science isn't determining anything. You can easily see here the state of the US hospitals. No where near capacity, operating at 10-30% in most cases. COVID-19 hospitalizations by state: Dec. 23

And none of these show any emergency hospitals because there are none currently. Capacity can be nearly doubled if needed. Philadelphia for example has a full hospital just sitting there still fully equipped because it recently shut down and they have done nothing with it to prepare for anything.

[Gil Boyd]

How interesting this media thing is. They can cause panic in an instant with mis-information.
During WW1 and the Spanish Flu pandemic that killed millions around the world as the soldiers all returned home from the trenches.................the media had very little to say, as they probably didn't have the experst sat around connected by email and Sat phones. It was proper journalism then, placed on paper as hardly anybody could afford a radio then.

We have several reporters in the UK mostly with the BBC because they have a glut of them paid at high rates who thing they can ramp stories up like COVID to place uncertainty in the heads of the public. Laura Keunsberg and Kate Adie as an example.

Time they were disbanded in my view. The only TV network in the world that makes our allies pay for their TV licence when they come over here to serve.

[ssgross]

the Spanish Flu pandemic that killed millions around the world as the soldiers all returned home from the trenches.................the media had very little to say, as they probably didn't have the experst sat around connected by email and Sat phones

And there were riots over mask laws and lockdowns back then. Try telling that true story and you are likely to get banned from the internet for "fake news misinformation".
My son had to do a covid related school project...it was to put together an informative website. He chose to go the historical route, comparing to other pandemics. Over several weeks he would find something - like the riot stories, and then the next day go to incorporate it and it would be gone...removed from the internet. I had a lot of fun showing him the wonders of the wayback machine.