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    LB Sniper Question

    i recently purchase a non matching scope and tin case. The case was marked rifle "44L5178" and Scope "99C". The scope and bracket is "Brit" matching a BSA No4T. I was very surprised to find this marking. Where there 1943 LB sniper rifle in this serial range? Anybody out there have this rifle? Maybe the scope? Gent I purchased this from had it for 25+years and never paid attention to the markings. Comments pls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgg_7 View Post
    i recently purchase a non matching scope and tin case. The case was marked rifle "44L5178" and Scope "99C". The scope and bracket is "Brit" matching a BSA No4T. I was very surprised to find this marking. Where there 1943 LB sniper rifle in this serial range? Anybody out there have this rifle? Maybe the scope? Gent I purchased this from had it for 25+years and never paid attention to the markings. Comments pls.

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    Ron, is the BSA matching?

    In answer to your LB questions
    1. there are (known) LB snipers serial numbered within 5,000 of your stated serial number.
    2. I do not have that rifle, nor that scope number on my list as having been "found"
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    I checked my records too, no luck, but I have a can on record that is close to yours. Sadly, it is not mine.

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    Lance - your info is very interesting. Your pix shows a rifle serial number "44L5177" and mine is "44L5178" - you can't get much closer than this. Same lettering, paint color etc. Lee Enfield - I have seen the LB production number some where. Confirmation of the 1943 production volume would validate the fact that LB No4 T's were manufactured in 1943. We have 2 good serial numbers.

    Any other 1943 LB No4 T's out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgg_7 View Post
    Lance - your info is very interesting. Your pix shows a rifle serial number "44L5177" and mine is "44L5178" - you can't get much closer than this. Same lettering, paint color etc. Lee Enfield - I have seen the LB production number some where. Confirmation of the 1943 production volume would validate the fact that LB No4 T's were manufactured in 1943. We have 2 good serial numbers.

    Any other 1943 LB No4 T's out there?

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    Yes, there are lots of 1943 LB No4T rifles out here.

    Between the members of this site I know of 4 or 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgg_7 View Post
    Lance - your info is very interesting. Your pix shows a rifle serial number "44L5177" and mine is "44L5178" - you can't get much closer than this. Same lettering, paint color etc. Lee Enfield - I have seen the LB production number some where. Confirmation of the 1943 production volume would validate the fact that LB No4 T's were manufactured in 1943. We have 2 good serial numbers.

    Any other 1943 LB No4 T's out there?

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    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=60046
    The records from REL show that by Mar of 43, 135 no32mk1 telescopes had been delivered. If you look through the other pages I posted on that thread, there was some information as to deliveries of complete rifles. 165 were delivered by the end of 1943.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rgg_7 View Post
    Lance - your info is very interesting. Your pix shows a rifle serial number "44L5177" and mine is "44L5178" - you can't get much closer than this. Same lettering, paint color etc. Lee Enfield - I have seen the LB production number some where. Confirmation of the 1943 production volume would validate the fact that LB No4 T's were manufactured in 1943. We have 2 good serial numbers.

    Any other 1943 LB No4 T's out there?

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    Ron, I have a 1943 LB 4T serial 39Lxxxx, scope was originally what looks like 10-C according to the markings on the wrist of the stock but I when I acquired the rifle it came with scope 271-C.
    If anyone knows of that scope 10-C, I'd be v. keen to hear of it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by desperatedan View Post
    Ron, I have a 1943 LB 4T serial 39Lxxxx, scope was originally what looks like 10-C according to the markings on the wrist of the stock but I when I acquired the rifle it came with scope 271-C.
    If anyone knows of that scope 10-C, I'd be v. keen to hear of it...
    Not quite, but 11-C is known to exist.
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    The BSA bolt and mag match with no scope serial number on the butt stock wrist. The scope bracket bears a different serial number than the rifle therefore I'm assuming the scope is not original to the rifle. It's a 1944 Watson and may be original to the rifle - just no proof.

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    Rifle 44L8186 was originally fitted with R.E.L. scope (C No. 32 Mk. I or Mk. IA) S/N C-135, later refitted in service with Britishicon scope S/N 18378 and is now wearing R.E.L. scope C No. 32 Mk. II S/N 477-C. It had an R.E.L. C No. 8 Mk. 2 scope case and a British No. 15 Mk. I transit chest, which the seller erroneously claimed was Canadianicon. This set was sold a year ago by 5starguns in Utica, MI.

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