+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: Is this 1903a4 stock correct?

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Contributing Member ghost07's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Last On
    09-28-2024 @ 05:47 PM
    Location
    Fisherville, KY
    Posts
    14
    Local Date
    05-03-2025
    Local Time
    03:04 AM

    Is this 1903a4 stock correct?

    Just saw this rifle on line and the stock has me puzzled. The left side of the stock has the 3 correct cartouches; RA, crossed cannons & FJA. The bottom of the grip has a single circle P. There is no re-arsenal mark and there are no sub inspector marks on the bottom of the stock in front of the trigger guard. A correct original stock should have 5 sub inspector marks, the 3 cartouches and a single circle P proof mark. I would expect a replacement stock to be re-arsenal marked and not have the 3 cartouches on the left side. What do you all think?
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.
    Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_8685.jpeg‎
Views:	346
Size:	943.4 KB
ID:	133880   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_8686.jpeg‎
Views:	292
Size:	1.99 MB
ID:	133881   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_8687.jpeg‎
Views:	289
Size:	2.34 MB
ID:	133882  

  2. #2
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    martin08's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Last On
    04-21-2025 @ 08:00 PM
    Location
    Maine
    Posts
    329
    Local Date
    05-03-2025
    Local Time
    03:04 AM
    What we can see looks like a correct Keystone C-Stock. Not sure why sub-inspector stamps are missing.

    Here is a straight stock from Remington to compare left wrist cartouches.


  3. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  4. #3
    Advisory Panel
    JGaynor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last On
    03-25-2025 @ 07:37 PM
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    888
    Local Date
    05-03-2025
    Local Time
    03:04 AM
    Ghost I think the marks shown in your 8;52am picture are probably fakes.

  5. #4
    Contributing Member ghost07's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Last On
    09-28-2024 @ 05:47 PM
    Location
    Fisherville, KY
    Posts
    14
    Local Date
    05-03-2025
    Local Time
    03:04 AM
    Thread Starter
    The description says “arsenal parkerized finish, wood very lightly arsenal sanded at some point, parkerized butt plate, stock is a replacement field stock with all correct markings but no sub inspectors and cut out for bolt was field altered”. If it went through an arsenal why is there no arsenal mark on the left butt stock and why are the 3 manufacturers cartouches on the stock? Those we’re only applied when the rifle was manufactured. I don’t see anyway that it is the original stock due to the lack of sub inspector marks. At the same time I don’t believe that stock was put on at an arsenal due to the lack of an arsenal mark on the left butt stock. If it was replaced in the field by an armorer then I don’t believe that there would be any marks on the stock. Most likely I think the stock is a field replacement or is a replacement stock somebody acquired and the manufacturer’s cartouches and proof mark were, as JGaynor has suggested, are probably fakes.

  6. #5
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    martin08's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Last On
    04-21-2025 @ 08:00 PM
    Location
    Maine
    Posts
    329
    Local Date
    05-03-2025
    Local Time
    03:04 AM
    Look in the cut-off relief. The K is lightly struck, but it is there.

    Not seeing the 'fat cannons' of the usual fake ordnance wheel.

    If it is a fake, it is a good one.

  7. #6
    Advisory Panel
    JGaynor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last On
    03-25-2025 @ 07:37 PM
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    888
    Local Date
    05-03-2025
    Local Time
    03:04 AM
    Its hard to know precisely what the various stamps may indicate without more information or photographs. Unless you have the barrel date and manufacturer and the serial number, for example, you are kind of limited to guesswork. The various arks cited would have most likely been applied by separate people, at separate facilities at separate times. Stams are applied sequentially as the stock moves through various stages in the production process.

    In my opinion there is no good reason for the sub inspectors marks to be missing (that's not one mistake it's at least five). Also the ones which make u the lettering look a little too thin and sharp IMO.

  8. #7
    Advisory Panel Chuckindenver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-29-2025 @ 12:20 PM
    Location
    Denver Co
    Age
    62
    Posts
    3,199
    Real Name
    chuck
    Local Date
    05-03-2025
    Local Time
    01:04 AM
    markings are most likely not legit
    warpath metal finishing contact info.
    molinenorski@msn.com
    720-841-1399 during normal bus, hours.

  9. Thank You to Chuckindenver For This Useful Post:


  10. #8
    Legacy Member togor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 09:37 PM
    Posts
    138
    Local Date
    05-03-2025
    Local Time
    02:04 AM
    Agree with Chuck. Maybe old wood, maybe new wood. Definitely not old stamps.

  11. #9
    Advisory Panel John Beard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Last On
    01-24-2025 @ 10:45 PM
    Location
    Sweet Home Alabama
    Posts
    1,098
    Local Date
    05-03-2025
    Local Time
    01:04 AM
    The stock is a Keystone field replacement and the inspection marks and proof stamp are fake.

    J.B.

  12. The Following 3 Members Say Thank You to John Beard For This Useful Post:


+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. 1903a4 Needing replacement stock. Advice on Correct Stock
    By kolter909 in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 02-19-2018, 03:53 PM
  2. 1903A4 correct M84 mounting position
    By Brian B in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 02-05-2017, 12:26 PM
  3. Original WWII 1903A4 Remington Bolt Correct Rare
    By Badger in forum Commercial Auction and Sale "Gossip"
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 02-26-2014, 08:38 AM
  4. 1903a4 stock
    By Dusty in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 07-19-2011, 09:22 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts