Microsoft's Vista.....

[RayP.]

Any one looking at buying a new computer might want to take a close look at some of the other operating systems,I fired this pc up Sat. a.m.,had 34 fixes and a Service Pack waiting to be downloaded and installed,took a couple of days,got on line this a.m. and had 4 more patches waitng to be downloaded and installed,I think Microsoft should offer an exchange of operating systems and get rid of this Vista.

RayP.

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[dryheat]

I don't know much about computers, but when the guys sold me mine, they told me, don't mess with Vista. So I stayed with XP.

[John L. Lucci]

I don't know much about computers, but when the guys sold me mine, they told me, don't mess with Vista. So I stayed with XP.

Congrats they sold you an obsolescent operating system.

[John L. Lucci]

I don't know much about computers, but when the guys sold me mine, they told me, don't mess with Vista. So I stayed with XP.

Also, salespeople tend to sell towards the clients capabilities. So if you walk up and admit that you do not know much about the subject matter they will "dumb down" and sell you the older technology. Why? Other than being rather "bubbly" the Luna interface of Windows XP was more evolution than revolution. So the salesperson is banking that you'd be more familiar with the basics of XP and not require much overhead in the form of technical support may it be from walking in asking questions or calling in via telephone.

[Ramboueille]

Also, salespeople tend to sell towards the clients capabilities. So if you walk up and admit that you do not know much about the subject matter they will "dumb down" and sell you the older technology. Why? Other than being rather "bubbly" the Luna interface of Windows XP was more evolution than revolution. So the salesperson is banking that you'd be more familiar with the basics of XP and not require much overhead in the form of technical support may it be from walking in asking questions or calling in via telephone.

John,

You hit it pretty accurately.

I agree that there is nothing wrong with Vista. It's big and the corresponding hardware is needed to run it. There is more security included with it so that most diagnose Vista as something to "stay away from" or "I heard from others don't bother." The attempts to save users from themselves with more security is met as misunderstood "bloat." Since I assemble my own computers with legal operating systems, Vista64 has been trouble free. Every 32 bit program I use on XP Pro and ran under XP Pro performs flawlessy and installed transparently with Vista 64. Those that like the XP "look" can easily customize Vista to it if desired with a few clicks.

Trying to install Vista on older hardware is like stuffing 10 lbs or crap into a five pound bag. And Windows 7 uses the Vista core kernel so Windows 7 will be a cosmetic and streamlined Vista with another name.

[John L. Lucci]

John,

You hit it pretty accurately.

I agree that there is nothing wrong with Vista. It's big and the corresponding hardware is needed to run it. There is more security included with it so that most diagnose Vista as something to "stay away from" or "I heard from others don't bother." The attempts to save users from themselves with more security is met as misunderstood "bloat." Since I assemble my own computers with legal operating systems, Vista64 has been trouble free. Every 32 bit program I use on XP Pro and ran under XP Pro performs flawlessy and installed transparently with Vista 64. Those that like the XP "look" can easily customize Vista to it if desired with a few clicks.

Trying to install Vista on older hardware is like stuffing 10 lbs or crap into a five pound bag. And Windows 7 uses the Vista core kernel so Windows 7 will be a cosmetic and streamlined Vista with another name.

I concur with you. Vista was designed to push Technology along. It wasn't for installing onto older hardware. (You can do it and it will run, but it will do so at the speed that may be less than optimal.)

Win 7 was designed to run on Netbooks on up so it will feel pretty zippy even on old hardware and when it comes to technology is an intentional "Speed bump" before getting back to the push..

[Ramboueille]

.....,I fired this pc up Sat. a.m.,had 34 fixes and a Service Pack waiting to be downloaded and installed,took a couple of days........
RayP.

Ray,

What is "this pc?" Is that your laptop on dialup?

[0311Shooter]

We fought this battle awhile back. I don't like Vista and I don't like Bill Gates.

After a couple years getting those darn "updates" I finally had enough. Got to where my fast PC was taking a minute to come up for loading those updates. Finally did away with the update crapola setup.

But to avoid virii and malware and bugs, I loaded a thing called Threatfire from PC Tools. It runs in the background, updates itself nearly every day, only takes a few seconds. It's free and I no longer have to put up with those stupid updates from MS.

Works for me.

[John Sukey (Deceased)]

Bill Gates and Sarah Brady are two of a kind. But I guess when you have a house the size of a small village (no joke),with a 200 car garage, you can afford to hire private security with guns.

[John L. Lucci]

Any one looking at buying a new computer might want to take a close look at some of the other operating systems,I fired this pc up Sat. a.m.,had 34 fixes and a Service Pack waiting to be downloaded and installed,took a couple of days,got on line this a.m. and had 4 more patches waitng to be downloaded and installed,I think Microsoft should offer an exchange of operating systems and get rid of this Vista.

RayP.

Most of the Vista bashers have not used it for any length of time and are often parroting what they have heard from other non-users. One caveat is that any PC running an "Operating system of the Masses" as opposed to an "Operating system of the Minority" (Apple OS X+, Linux) is perpetually under attack and will need patching. On consequences is it will need a high speed I-net connection time to time. If a machine has been offline a while (Most PC from major manufacturers and retailer qualify as they will be sitting in a warehouse for some time before you receive it.) It will need updating before you can really use it.

Win XP in comparison is a mature operating system and is nearing the end of its service life. In fact, on 4/14 Win XP slipped into long term support which means it will receive hot fixes only. There will be no more service packs or other changes. In short, it's a operating system on life support.

I use Vista Home Premium on my primary home system. Compared to XP it's much more stable. On a multi-monitor desktop installation the gadget bar which was added to Vista and XP lacks is extremely useful.