All Quiet on the Western Front..rifle ID

[imarangemaster]

I was showing the 1979 version of "All Quiet on the Western Front" to my World History class and am having trouble IDing the rifles they are carrying in the film. They look like a cross between a WWI Gewehr 98 and an 88 Commission rifle. I am not a Mauser guy (I hang out mostly on the M1 Carbine forum). Researching the movie, I read somewhere that they made it in the Czech Republic (or somewhere that was Com-Bloc) and used 88s in the filming, but they don't look right - they have no magazine protruding down in-front of the trigger guard. The bayonets look like Arisaka bayos.

Sorry to intrude, but it is just driving me nuts... Using the wrong weapons in movies is one of my pet peeves.

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[Jager 1945]

These Bayos were 1888 British bayonets modified to fit on Turkish rifles I think i read somewhere. It was said that the film studio armourers do that from time to time and you will see wierd fitting bayonets aND RIFLES.

Remember Hogan's Heros. schultz was always carrying an old spanish mauser, or turked rifle and bayo

Jager

[gunner]

A few weeks ago came the "Deathwatch" from the WWI age and the Brits there used No4 MKI´s. Not really good.

Regards

Gunner

[Calif-Steve]

The 1979 version was a decent movie. I think the Germans used Turk Model 38 Mausers. The film was made in Czech Rep if I recall correctly.

[Tom in N.J.]

Sgt. Schultz carried a U.S. Krag in "Hogan's Heros"....

[imarangemaster]

A few weeks ago came the "Deathwatch" from the WWI age and the Brits there used No4 MKI´s. Not really good.

Regards

Gunner

Herr Gunner,

Im Deutschland, muessen Sie jetz "Im Westen Nichts Neues" lesen im Hoch Schule? Ich musste es in der Hoch Schule lesen vor vierzig Jahren. Es ist ein grossartig Geschichte das von dem Wahnsinn des "Stellungskrieges."

It is mandatory for my students to watch it and write an essay about it!

[imarangemaster]

Sgt. Schultz carried a U.S. Krag in "Hogan's Heros"....

Now that you mention it, I noticed that the last time I watched an old re-run.

[Mike D]

Thanks for bringing this up, I did not know about this later version of the film.

Here is some info with pics and a cool site - All Quiet on the Western Front (1979 - imfdb :. guns in movies :. movie guns :. the internet movie firearms database)

Thought I would throw in the link to the home page 'cause it is cool - Main Page - imfdb :. guns in movies :. movie guns :. the internet movie firearms database

If you look at the column to the left you can choose -

Movies - Pick a movie and it tells all guns used in that movie

Guns - Pick a gun and it tells all movies that gun was used in

Actors - Pick an actor/actress and find out what gun he/she used in what movie

There is also a Television section and more. It does all this with excellent photos of the weapons and still photos from the movies. Great site!

[gunner]

Rangemaster, nein dieses Buch wird nicht gelesen.

I have the book and it is great to read. I´ve seen both movies, the old B/W and the new one. Both are good. Do you have the book "In Stahlgewittern" from Ernst Jünger? It is also good reading of the gruels in the trench warfar of WWI.

Good idea to let the students write of it.

Viele Grueße

Gunner

[imarangemaster]

The only books I have read about war fron the German perspective are WWII settings: "The Cross of Iron" (Das geduldige Fleisch) by Willi Heinrich and "Sharks and little fish" (Haie und kleine Fische) by Wolfgang Ott. I will have to check out the ""Storm of Steel" book. I read a second one by Heinrich, but can't remember the namee of it. Vielen Danke!