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whats my m14 worth?
Hey fellas. I signed up for this website hoping to talk to someone with savvy on the m14 rifle.
I inherited an older looking m14 rifle. I'm trying to determint e what it might be worth, as it is the type of gun i wouldnt have much use for.
It came with a US army manual dated 1972
there's a 20 shot clip typical of this rifle, and a nice wooden stock with not much wear and tear or scratches
Behind the rear sights are some markings which read : "U.S. Rifle 7.62mm M14
H&R Arms Co, 71566"
Then another stamp on the bolt itself which reads: " 7790186
8A Z3"
It's a decent shape, i doubt it has been used much. Does anyone know anything about this gun? I can't do much with it, but do not want to get ripped off if i sell it to a friend who has a license for a gun like this.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your M14
may be worth several years in prison, because it is still classified as a machine gun by the BATF. Of course, if it is registered as a machine gun, then you may be OK as long as you transfer the registration. If registered, it's worth at least several thousand dollars, and possibly much more. If NOT registered, maybe you could donate it to a museum.
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huh, well that is bad news about the legality aspect.
What do you determine your appraisal on? do those marking denote some sort of authenticity?
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If you are in the U.S. a registered and legally papered M14 can bring from 23,000.00 to 30,000.00 depending on condition and maker.
IF you have a M14 in the U.S. without paper it is worth 10,000.00 out of your pocket plus a stay in Federal Prison up to 10 years. The weapon will be seized and destroyed more than likely unless the seizing agency request a government transfer to that agency by the court.
The National Firearms Act ("NFA"), 73rd Congress, Sess. 2, ch. 757, 48 Stat. 1236, enacted on 26 June 1934, currently codified as amended as 26 U.S.
C. ch.53, is an Act of Congress that, in general, imposes a statutory excise tax on the manufacture and transfer of certain firearms and mandates the registration of those firearms. The Act was passed shortly after the repeal of Prohibition. The NFA is also referred to as Title II of the Federal firearms laws. The Gun Control Act of 1968 ("GCA
") is Title I.
All transfers of ownership of registered NFA firearms must be done through the federal NFA registry. The NFA also requires that transport of NFA firearms across state lines by the owner must be reported to the ATF.
Criminal penalties
Violations of the Act 1938 are punishable by up to 10 years in federal prison and forfeiture of all devices or firearms in violation, and the individual's right to own or possess firearms in the future. The Act provides for a penalty of $10,000 for certain violations.[6] A willful attempt to evade or defeat a tax imposed by the Act is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a $100,000 fine ($500,000 in the case of a corporation or trust), under the general tax evasion statute.[7] For an individual, the felony fine of $100,000 for tax evasion could be increased to $250,000.[8]
On top of all this if by serial number it is found that this rifle was liberated from the DOD one can probably expect charges of position of stolen military ordinance.
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In the early 60's we all carried M-14's in Germany
and I never saw a select fire one. All were semi autos. My son ownes Springfield Inc
M1A
that was factory made select fire with paper. It's worth about $14K I think. The same holds true for the M-2 Carbines, even semi autos are No-No's. We have a M1 Carbine, rebuilt by RIA as a M2 with paper, worth $8K? In short no matter what the gun does, if it is stamped
M-14 or M2 stay away from it if it has no Class 3 paperwork. The best you can do is to strip the gun, sell the parts, and bury the receiver.
Good luck.
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U.S. MILITARY DATES OF MANUFACTURE
U.S. Military M14
Rifle: Harrington and Richardson:
Covering numbers: 54214 - 1591164.
The year of manufacture for serial number 71566 is 1960 - 1961
By chance was the person that passed away a Peace Officer in the early 1970s ???
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Thank you for informing me about the legalities of this weopan.
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no he wasn't a peace officer, a civiliian.
suspect he must have bought it from an ex serviceman friend in the US, then brought it to Canada
in the late 70's or early 80's when the border was less tight. I never knew it existed until he died and we cleaned out the attic. Now im stuck with an apparently illegal gun trying to figure out what to do with it lol.
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were there some HRA NM rifles that never had the selector leg?
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I'm no expert on this , but if he is the inheritor (not an executor of an estate) of a legally owned with papers M14
(that is the big catch here) then legal possession of the firearm could possibly pass to him, pending transfer and all legalities.
Read this: http://www.orl-llc.com/Files/ATF%20O...t%20Branch.htm
Now go get a NFA versed lawyer. That rifle could be too valuable to destroy if you do not need too, or not valuable enough to spend 10 years of your life with bubba.
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