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    The only reference I have so far found says that it is similar to the ".22 No2". the "Lee Enfield " book shows a rather end on picture that does not really help perhaps one of the other forum members who have contributed to this thread can post some pictures of the bolthead.
    I am not new to "Enfields" just fairly new to this forum, I found it by accident it was probably the best accident I ever had!!!
    I aggree about the ammo, sub sonic seems to produce the best results and I have a selection that I intend to try in the new beast, I will post the results when I have them.
    I am lucky to have in my collection a .22 Short Rifle MkII, a B.S.A. built "Volunteer".22 Long Rifle Mk1 ( well thats what it looks like but as there are no service markings it is the closest I can get). Two No2 MkIV* one by B.S.A. and the other by Lithgowicon. A No7 that has been rebarreled, a No 8 and an Alf J Parker No9 look alike that is built on a M47 1943 dated No 4 Mk1 action.
    I intend to upload photos and details of the more interesting ones eventually but if there is anything that takes your fancy please let me know and I will try to get it done for you.

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    Doesn't show all the detail but it's the only one on hand.

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    Here's a pic of my two trainers. A Westley Richards .22Patt14 No1 and a .22 Short Rifle MkII.
    Also a pic of the Patt14 No1 bolt head and the original striker retaining screw (which wasn't really a screw) I noticed yours must have the flush sunk screw- another replacement part. Also a pic of the Mk1 safety lever.
    Attachment 23601Attachment 23600Attachment 23599Attachment 23597Attachment 23598

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    Thanks for the great pics, but I am little confused, which is fairly normal for me. What is the purpose of the lump with the screw in the front on top of the bolt head for and how does it pass the reciever? I am sitting looking at the bolt head fitted to mine and can't work it out.

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    The "lump with the screw in the front" is the sliding charger guide as used on the SMLE Mk.I, I*, I**, I*** II, II* ect. On the 303 inch rifles when the bolt was fully to the rear it formed the right side of the charger guide, with the left side being fixed to the reciever. If you look at the third picture on the first post of this thread, you will see the charger stop that caught the charger guide, pushed it forword and held it in place as the bolt came to the rear. On the SMLE Mk.I series the stop was forged as part of the reciever, On the SMLEs converted from MLE it was a seperate part. When the bolt was pushed home, the sliding charger would hit the rear of the reciever ring and be pushed back. To remove the bolt, you would lift the boldhead, slide the charger to the rear most position to clear the left hand charger guide, rotate the bolthead the rest of the way up and pull the bolt out, reverse this to put the bolt back in. A rather neat and over engineered bit of hardwear. On the .22 traning rifles, it serves no purpose. I have a 22 Short Rifle Patter 14 No.1 (Boy that is a mouthfull) that still has the sliding charger on a converted SMLE Mk.I bolt head, I have also seen then without it as it serves no purpose and have also see them with 22 No.2 boltheads.

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    Many thanks for that Sht_LE, thats what I love about this site no matter how technical or dumb a question may seem to be there is always someone prepared to take the time to answer it, once again many thanks.

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    Here's a pic showing the bolt in a Mk1*** Sht LE drawn to the rear, and the charger guide in position with a charger of drill rounds set to load.
    The trainers were supposed to have the charger guide removed... if you look closely at Demo's pic, (near the top of this thread) you can see the T slot slideway machined on top of the bolthead to accept the charger guide.

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    All is now clear many thanks, you learn something new every day!!!

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