Newbie Needs Advice on M1 Carbine Rear Sight

[Harlan (Deceased)]

They're just held in place by wedging into a dove tail (right side to the left) and usually staked (punch mark) to hold them in place, so they can get loose and fall off. Also, original leaf sites are now very expensive and have been desirable for quite a while so maybe someone 'borrowed' it.

For a shooter rifle and plinking the adjustable sights have a lot of merit. They designed it as a replacement because it functioned better with it's versatility of adjustments. I understand your desire to have original USGI parts and I agree. Just wanted to let you know the little leaf sights are very expensive collectibles (over $100) and difficult to find originals. There's probably 50 or more fakes being sold for authentic for every authentic one found, and even many people familaiar with carbines can't tell an authentic leaf sight from a $10 reproduction by looking at photos on sale sites.

[ChipS]

Unless you are trying to 'restore' the carbine to the original configuration of June 1943 (very expensive and difficult to do right) the USGI adjustable sight, either the milled or stamped version, is by far the better sight. That's why Uncle Sam developed them. The adjustable sights are much easier to get your shot where you want it to be on your target and also give you better selection of elevation (range) adjustment than the older fixed leaf type flip sight. I personnally think the earlier milled adjustable sight is a better made sight than the later stamped version but they both work very well and they are both available at a very reasonable price. JMHO

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

I'm a pistol target shooter normally, so all rifles/carbines basically are unfamiliar.

Annie,

Going off subject a bit, but you mentioned it. What kind of pistols do you shoot? Brand, model, caliber? Just nosey.

Have fun. Jim

[phildo]

I would have to agree that the milled is a little nicer and that either stamped or milled they are nicer as far as shooting as they're windage and heoght adjustable were as the flip type sights are not. Here's a very good price for a milled sight. I have purchased from this outfit many many times.

Rear Sight, Middle Issue, Milled


Let me know if you have any questions

Unless you are trying to 'restore' the carbine to the original configuration of June 1943 (very expensive and difficult to do right) the USGI adjustable sight, either the milled or stamped version, is by far the better sight. That's why Uncle Sam developed them. The adjustable sights are much easier to get your shot where you want it to be on your target and also give you better selection of elevation (range) adjustment than the older fixed leaf type flip sight. I personnally think the earlier milled adjustable sight is a better made sight than the later stamped version but they both work very well and they are both available at a very reasonable price. JMHO

[Badger]

Thanks, y'all. I'm having problems putting my pix onto the site. Using my Nikon JPEG format, and msg says file too big.

They need to be resized. Native pics from the camera will be way too big to post on any Internet web site, as it would a very long time for anyone to open and view them.

They need to be re-sized using Microsoft's Re-sizer program, or if you want, email them to me at badger@milsurps.com and I'll re-size them for you, as well as host and post them in this thread.

Regards,
Doug

[INLAND44]

AnnieO sent me the pics, of which I will post the ones that seem to be of use.






The carbine looks to be refinished (blued) after the rebuild refinish (Parkerizing) and the stock has been cleaned up and finished. The rear sight dovetail may have been used with a scope mount at some point, but does show the staking for a flip sight. I wonder if it's a Bavarian?

[Bruce McAskill]

The finish looks more black then blue. I don't think it's a Bavarian but it is a nice Winchester. And as stated has only the flip sight stake marks so a prime one for restoration but very expensive to do.

[us019255]

My two cents on carbine sights.

It partly depends upon your intended use. If you are the only one who will be using the carbine. If you will be shooting at either short range, or known range (say a 100 yd. gun range), you can adjust the windage on a flip sight, and stake it down well. Similarly file the front sight and you are good to go. If you wish the elevation adjustments on the later sights to be on, you have to adjust the front sight anyway.

Within this limitation, I find the flip sight to be more convenient (truck gun) than the later. I also am not worried that the flip sight is a reproduction (this carbine is a shooter- reproduction folding stock, commercial barrel, well pitted receiver, rest of the parts by mixmaster).

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

It has later parts installed, who knows by who. Slide, type three band, safety. Can't tell if there is a rebuild marking on the stock.

She mentioned she didn't want to spend a fortune. I would find a nice milled USGI adj rear sight, install it and have fun shooting it.

[Bill Hollinger]

Annie, PM me your address and I'll send you a type III adjustable sight at no cost to you. And, I believe I have one that is nearly black in color. This will get your husband's carbine up and running and I would be delighted to be of help.