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    Now's the time to start recording these fakes, it may save someone a lot of pain down the track.
    I have been alluding to fakery for a few months now, there seems to be a plethora of sniper rifles suddenly appearing, good timing or good reworking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by muffett.2008 View Post
    Now's the time to start recording these fakes, it may save someone a lot of pain down the track.
    I have been alluding to fakery for a few months now, there seems to be a plethora of sniper rifles suddenly appearing, good timing or good reworking?
    Excellent idea.

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    Its not really a fake as there are no scope pads fitted, and if they were fitted then the markings would be obliterated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XL39E1 View Post
    Its not really a fake as there are no scope pads fitted, and if they were fitted then the markings would be obliterated!
    Its not the point XL39E1, the fact is, all or most reading this its quite obvious to what it is, but its what Peter mentioned in an earlier post, when this appears again in maybe 50 years, (most of us will be gone then) if there is nothing recorded or on paper about it, then it becomes legit and someone then looses a small fortune.

    Thats how forgery and fakes work, bring them into the system at the right time, or when there is an interest and people are willing to pay daft money, what you need to remember is, its estimated that 40% of the worlds art is fake.

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    I see your point!

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    With one born every minute the seller may get lucky.
    “There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”

    Edward Bernays, 1928

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    Wink

    I think it will probably go as a 'collector's item' rather than as a shooter, as any prospective buyer would surely have a guide dog & a white stick....

    Personally I agree with XL39's original comments. Calling it a fake L42 gives it a gravitas it doesn't deserve. It's just a lash up, not even vaguely like a real L42. Perhaps I'm being overly naive, but with more information coming to light on these weapons over time (& with more books being written/rewritten) I am hopeful that the collector of tomorrow will be better informed than us........But I always was an optimist.

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    Have you noticed how all of a sudden all the suspect rifles have disappeared from the forum.
    Is it seasonal? Do they just come at you in batches in the hope that one may slip through?
    There's one thing though, the forum goes quiet without them, or is it that we all grab for our numbers stamps and a bit of acid for fast ageing?
    Just wondered.

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    You have a point muffett. There's nothing like a good (or is it bad?) sniper fake being offered in the public domain to stimulate lively debate on the forum!

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