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    Just another Armourers comment......give over, this is all getting repetetive and boring.
    Those of us that know what to do, will just keep fixing your f....ups, 'cause that's what we do.

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    Nice.

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    Oh by the way. Back to what I was talking about before I was so rudely interupted. Got the old rifle put back together. Clean. Shiney. Functions flawlessly. Took it out fired it. Works as good as an Enfield should. So will clean it and go on to the next one.
    Thank you all to your insightful comments about what to look for in a complete disassembly. It was about the 15th Ive done on Enfields.

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    You can call it 'rude interruption' but this is clearly a 'trolling' thread in protest at suggestions in the other thread - only no-one's allowed to disagree with you because you started it. Respect the opinions of some great experts on this forum. Anyone can have a different point of view, but saying 'you can't post here' is just pathetic.
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    It does seem Capt Mil Coll is upset with those of us who advised a Lee-Enfield novice not to disassemble his newly-acquired No.4 Mk.2 without a sound reason and detailed instructions. His first response on that topic shows some annoyance -

    ". . . As for the "I can do it but your too stupid to do it" people mouthing off, all I can say is its a firearm not a rocket. I can tear down and fix a PC with no problem. I can tear down and fix a car with no problem. Why the hell cant I tear down and fix a rifle? Give me a break." Capt Mil Coll, 5/26/2012

    I think he misses something many might find obvious: individuals have very different aptitudes and skills. Some fine folks, for instance, have difficulty writing English and simply don't grasp basic concepts like the difference between "your" and "you're" or "its" and "it's" - others find removing L-E wood without damage a difficult challenge.

    The original poster on that other thread asked "How far should I disassemble my Enfield before taking it to the range the 1st time?" and it was evident from his post that his experience with Lee-Enfields is limited. Had he asked us how to disassemble it rather than "How far should I . . .," the responses would likely have been very different.

    Perhaps the main thrust of Mil Coll's posts is just to boast about his technical skills. That's fine - but neither helpful nor interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muffett.2008 View Post
    Those of us that know what to do, will just keep fixing your f....ups, 'cause that's what we do.

    No you won't, because you are 10000000s of miles way. And Peter Laidlericon is on the wrong side of the channel, from my point of view. Possibly the only rifle shooter in Mauserland who can make something esoteric like a BA or BSF bolt is writing this post right now. I (and many others) have to rely on myself, my workshop, and hard acquired know-how too keep my old bangers in order. It would be fine if we could all use the services of experienced armorers. But we can't, and if everyone who needed something fixing on his rifle were to knock on your door, you wouldn't get much sleep!

    I appreciate that you may have truly expert knowledge and ability. But that is no reason to talk down to the rest of us.


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    Bugger, I've been rouse'd on, is the world really that big Patrick?
    That figure is more like the amount of active and ex armourers in the world, I'm sure that you are not alone in your neck of the woods.
    But if the end result is that it brings a close to this thread, that would be good.


    (This is a tongue in cheek comment, for those with no sense of humour.)
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    I find it important to take at least the forend off (especially on No1s) you just never know what you'll find missing such as the forend stud & spring or front trigger guard collar plus any damage or active rust, who know what you may also find that should not be there, such as bits of credit cards, coke cans, a roll of masking tape & maybe even an old pair of socks.

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    Im very impressed with the posts of those of us who feel a rifle can be dangerous and should have a good inspection and cleaning before takiing it out to fire.
    Dont know why some feel this thread is not important but I am a firm believer in taking down and cleaning every firearm I get.
    So on to the Garandicon someone left in their basement for 30 some years.
    When I got it for $100.00 the bolt wouldnt even open on it.
    Maybe Ill start a thread on that and post pics.

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    OK then we are drifting a bit off point here. From the looks of it we have two apposed views on how much maintenance is needed before a rifle is taken to the range for the first time. As has been said so many times in the past “it’s your rifle do as you please”. As this thread is for the most part a duplicate of the previous one I’m not sure much more can be gained by debating the points further.

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