1933 Trials sniper

[Brian B]

And if it wasn't going to, it will now!

I concur. We used to have a "gentlemen's agreement" that we would not post links to live auctions unless it was a fake and we were warning others. As many of you probably do as well, I look hard for rifles to purchase and would appreciate that others don't post links to live auctions. This rifle is in my back yard and I have handled it and I certainly don't need any more competition in the bidding.

Any thoughts from the rest of you on forum members posting links to live auctions? It just makes it more visible to the rest of the world and drives up prices. If other potential buyers aren't willing to put in the time to search for these items, we shouldn't help them out.

Thanks,

Brian B

[Badger]

Any thoughts from the rest of you on forum members posting links to live auctions? It just makes it more visible to the rest of the world and drives up prices. If other potential buyers aren't willing to put in the time to search for these items, we shouldn't help them out.

Yes, we have some thoughts and have posted the following position statement many times over the years ......

We've often had members express concerns about posting links to auctions and sales on other sites, for the benefit of all members.

Our position is that it's just fine to do.

If anyone believes that in this technology driven day and age, a public auction or sales ad appearing on the Internet, is somehow going to remain a secret amongst a select few who find it and want to exclusively keep it to themselves ... well, what can I say ...

This site is not a private clique. First and foremost, we are a research site founded with part of our mandate oriented to helping ALL members to be aware of public sales or auctions, including the ultimate prices those items sell for. We view it as just another part of a normal research and authentication process, particularly for new or less experienced collectors. Our approach to this policy has been the same for over 8 years and is not open for debate.

Thank you for respecting our wishes ...

Regards,
Doug

[RobD]

Well said, Brian B. The person who draws attention to an auction sometimes turns out to be none other than the person selling the item!

[Roger Payne]

Oh Dear! I am a simple naïve fool. I just appreciate people letting me know what's going on. Mind you, indeed I can understand collectors pulling their hair out as their prized hoped for possession just became a lot more expensive.

Good luck with your bidding.

ATB.

[Peter Laidler]

I like to think that I can see all sides of every point but like I say time and time again on the 'what's it worth' thread. The true price of something is the auction price. That ain't the VALUE or the COST....... It's the price that someone will pay. I ain't no economist but have been blessed with a bit of pragmatism and an added dash of the bleedin' obvious.

And we need to inject a bit of the bleedin obvious to this argument. Does anyone here really believe that of the millions of people visiting that auction side or those same (but less in number) people viewing gun sites will be missing the bargain you were hoping to hook? I VERY much doubt it. They're just sitting there, waiting to see what's going to happen at the very end. And like you, they'll pounce!

Annanuvverfing......... Like ANY auction, for a car or a vase or some decent snap-on tools, no matter where or whatever it is about, just set yourself a realistic value and bid up to that point - and not a PENNY more

[stencollector]

Like ANY auction, for a car or a vase or some decent snap-on tools, no matter where or whatever it is about, just set yourself a realistic value and bid up to that point - and not a PENNY more

Good theory and it works unless you let it get personal. Then the sky is the limit. I have to admit to having done that a time or two myself at auctions. Sometimes it's a psychological game too. But in either case, it also becomes an expensive one.

Fortunately you never pay too much, you just buy too early.

[Steve H. in N.Y.]

I think this is a complicated question. Anyone looking for a 4T will surely have seen this auction, but now that it has been discussed here and has been given a general “thumbs up” by some very respected folks, will that prompt some bidders to pay more? And I mean bidders unlike Brian B who rely only on other people’s knowledge.




Okay, now if a tree falls in the forest and no one......

[Brian Dick]

Give honest auction sellers some credit too. It's a ton of work behind the scenes answering questions and suppling additional requests for pictures. I'm learning.

[Bindi2]

If prices dont go up by at least CPI your collection is devaluing, who wants that. I am happy for the world to know what is at auction

[snipershot1944]

I really had not looked at the rifle closely till Brian B commented. Now that I take a closer look, maybe it would be a nice rig to bid upon. A trials rifle is a very rare variation after all, on par with an Enforcer or Longbranch I'd think. And they have been bringing big dollars lately.