EU Referendum Tomorrow....

[Paul S.]

A second referendum would make a mockery of the entire election process.

Don't like the result, scream 'foul' and force a do-over -- and then another, and another, and another . . .

[Flying10uk]

If the Remain side get away with a second vote on the Referendum before you know it we will be having the same principles applied to the next general election. If I've got to remain within the E.U. for the rest of my life I'd rather emigrate and I'm not particularly bothered where provided it was well outside the E.U. and had no realistic chance of ever joining.

[Gil Boyd]

"What you mean Iceland could be beaten by a replay"

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I can't believe that the referendum stands any chance of being re-run, the people wouldn't stand for it, especially if it ended with a remain win. The silent majority smell EU liberal blood in the water and wouldn't want to be cheated. Now fudging of the freedom of movemant issue and backtracking on immigration over trade in the comming months and years I could see happening, but I think if genuine change isn't delivered by whoever we get running our country next there could be unrest in some quarters. It'll be interesting to see if we can stick with what we think we've won.

[Peter Laidler]

Thread 83 really made me laugh Gill....... Worth quoting every time the re-run question arises! Yep, still chuckling....

[gsimmons]

"What you mean Iceland could be beaten by a replay"

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[Flying10uk]

If the Referendum was rerun I think Remain would win and they know it; that it is why some of them are still pushing for it.

[Paul S.]

The thought crossed my mind just now that the USA is about to celebrate a holiday commemorating a not dissimilar event. It seems that the Americans got fed up with those in power many miles away who were governing the Americans were taxing them, passing laws that seemed oppressive or meddlesome for their own agenda. As memory serves, the Americans decided to unilaterally separate themselves from the ruling government.

Am I not mistaken? Isn't BREXIT effectively the same?

[Eaglelord17]

The thought crossed my mind just now that the USA is about to celebrate a holiday commemorating a not dissimilar event. It seems that the Americans got fed up with those in power many miles away who were governing the Americans were taxing them, passing laws that seemed oppressive or meddlesome for their own agenda. As memory serves, the Americans decided to unilaterally separate themselves from the ruling government.

Am I not mistaken? Isn't BREXIT effectively the same?

Actually the BREXIT is much more democratic and justified. More or less the American Revolution was a small group of citizens who declared themselves a country WITHOUT asking the people around them if they wanted to or not (it was not like there was a vote to leave the UK). This is also why you see such a large migration of people like the United Empire Loyalists (and the severe lack of support after the initial rally, it took conscription, sums of money, and other forms of persuasion to convince them to fight for the Americas).

The American Revolutionaries weren't even concerned with the governance part, rather the taxation part (which the main reason they were being taxed was to pay for the war against the French in Quebec, which the Americans wanted, every other colony was also paying the tax so it isn't like they were being treated unfairly). My simple summary of the American Revolution was a group of rich, white, slave owning, males didn't want to pay their taxes. It also depends on who you read, those who actively seek to justify their actions, or those who look at it was a relatively impartial view.

[Paul S.]

Actually the BREXIT is much more democratic and justified. . . .

Agreed.