Ranger 303 rifles

[303carbine]

The reason I ask is because I met a Canadian Ranger that has his No4Mk11 Enfield, he is willing to sell to me with all the accompanying paperwork and pics of him with the rifle.
He already has his new C19, I hope to get pics soon as he gets back up north, i hope to get the rifle about a week later.

[bros]

That's terrible news, considering the Canadian Government (like the UK) are hellbent on destroying taxpayer property, I'm amazed the Rangers are allowed to buy their issued No4.

Let me set the record straight.......
Rangers are not able to buy their old service rifle, they are being "gifted" them as long as he/she wants to keep it. They must have a valid firearms licence or else "no dice". Our patrol here in Dawson went thru this exercise about 4 months . Out of 33 Rangers..... they all were interested in keeping their Lee Enfield, mind you there were a few that had neglected to have in their possesion a up to date firearms licence (expired) or it was in the process of being renewed. There seems to be a small grace period for those in that situation. Those who could not produce a current valid licence......their Enfield Rifles were taken away (but with the possibility of being gifted them at a later date once a valid licence is produced) but at the same time receiving the new C19. Those who were still in limbo meaning their fingerprints and paperwork (not firearms licence) was not up to date did not receive the new C19 and retained their Lee Enfield as their service weapon till that was squared away.....when paperwork and fingerprints are up to date they will be issued the C19 and will be gifted the Lee Enfield as long as they have a valid firearms licence
Hope this clarifies .

[mrclark303]

The reason I ask is because I met a Canadian Ranger that has his No4Mk11 Enfield, he is willing to sell to me with all the accompanying paperwork and pics of him with the rifle.
He already has his new C19, I hope to get pics soon as he gets back up north, i hope to get the rifle about a week later.

Enfield Mk2 you say ... sounds fishy to me, I thought they only had Long Branch No4's issued?

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Let me set the record straight.......
Rangers are not able to buy their old service rifle, they are being "gifted" them as long as he/she wants to keep it. They must have a valid firearms licence or else "no dice". Our patrol here in Dawson went thru this exercise about 4 months . Out of 33 Rangers..... they all were interested in keeping their Lee Enfield, mind you there were a few that had neglected to have in their possesion a up to date firearms licence (expired) or it was in the process of being renewed. There seems to be a small grace period for those in that situation. Those who could not produce a current valid licence......their Enfield Rifles were taken away (but with the possibility of being gifted them at a later date once a valid licence is produced) but at the same time receiving the new C19. Those who were still in limbo meaning their fingerprints and paperwork (not firearms licence) was not up to date did not receive the new C19 and retained their Lee Enfield as their service weapon till that was squared away.....when paperwork and fingerprints are up to date they will be issued the C19 and will be gifted the Lee Enfield as long as they have a valid firearms licence
Hope this clarifies .

Many thanks for the clarification, will the gifted rifles be allowed to be sold on at some point Bros?

[browningautorifle]

I met a Canadian Ranger that has his No4Mk11 Enfield, he is willing to sell to me

I wouldn't eat that one...

Let me set the record straight.......
Rangers are not able to buy their old service rifle, they are being "gifted" them as long as he/she wants to keep it. They must have a valid firearms licence or else "no dice". Our patrol here in Dawson went thru this exercise about 4 months . Out of 33 Rangers..... they all were interested in keeping their Lee Enfield, mind you there were a few that had neglected to have in their possesion a up to date firearms licence (expired) or it was in the process of being renewed. There seems to be a small grace period for those in that situation. Those who could not produce a current valid licence......their Enfield Rifles were taken away (but with the possibility of being gifted them at a later date once a valid licence is produced)

Thank you Bros, that makes it clear for them. I knew the Gummt' wouldn't sell them to the public...

will the gifted rifles be allowed to be sold on at some point Bros?

Once they own it and all dies down I should think it will be like any #4. Be wary of those that smell gold and stab you with a "Story" about "This is a REAL "Ranger" rifle"... So pay me HUGE...

You need to understand the lack of care most of those rifles received. Many were issued new and turned to junk by the next year's camp. Every damage you could possibly mention.

[englishman_ca]

Many of the Ranger rifles were bought on the surplus market AFTER some bright spark in Ottawa decided to get rid of the No.4s in war stocks.

So the rifles can be any mark or manufacture of the No.4. But there are some really nice Long Branches out on issue.
All the live 303 rifles were withdrawn from the Army Cadet organisation, which killed our large bore marksmanship program. Ours were mint looking LB, just beautiful. They would be the ones to find.

Most Rangers take really good care of their rifles. Maintain and keep them clean and oiled. Some Rangers, not so much.

[Seaforth72]

If buying an ex-Canadian Ranger Lee-Enfield, do check on condition (inside and out) as well as the maker, year etc. first. I know “bros” and he is very knowledgeable about these rifles and the Rangers.

I bought some ex-Ranger rifle No.4 furniture a few years ago, expecting decent Long Branch wood sets. Suffice to say I was disappointed when I received the parts as there was a lot of British wood in the batch and some of the wood was in really rough condition. This was obviously why they had been replaced. I do not blame my friend (not “bros”) who sold it to me as I had the “rose coloured glasses” on and I did not ask enough questions.

[303carbine]

If the rifle is good, I don't care where it came from or what story is attached.
It will be a hunting rifle and will be used in the manner it was intended, self defense from big fuzzy things that can eat you and those critters that I want to put in the fry pan.

[mrclark303]

If the rifle is good, I don't care where it came from or what story is attached.
It will be a hunting rifle and will be used in the manner it was intended, self defense from big fuzzy things that can eat you and those critters that I want to put in the fry pan.

Never heard the Germans described as big fuzzy things.......

[amadeus76]

Never heard the Germans described as big fuzzy things.......

I've been described as a 'teddy bear', does that count? But then I'm only half German...

[303carbine]

Never heard the Germans described as big fuzzy things.......

It's going to be a hunting rifle not intended for two legged varmints.