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Originally Posted by
Daan Kemp
Travelling is still fun but the accompanying regulations, quarantine, etc, isn't.
Looking forward to being bothered.
Likewise.
And PE was ok this round. Just the normal small scale looting activities going on.
'It seems no shooting range has been spared.
What they couldn't carry away from our range in PE, they just broke and destroyed. They even went as far as breaking our safety areas down. One pig was so kind, he/she/it took a dump in a toilet and then broke the cistern and water pipes off, before removing the door and door frame.
They have mined the back stops to such a degree that we had to get a TLB in to push new ones.
Also don't think having people at the range is a deterrent. We had a night shoot a few months back and miners were busy digging under moon light and then ran away. The fact that about 20 people were having a after match braai meant nothing.
We had to get a crane truck in during lock down to turn our containers door to door.'
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Originally Posted by
Daan Kemp
AFAIK, a lot of people aren't leaving South Africa, except if the emigration process has been completed. The emigration process is lengthy, involved, includes a lot of money and quite challenging due to Covid regulations at your destination. Just leaving immediately means leaving all your money and assets behind and arriving elsewhere with nothing. And then trying to get residence, job, etc. Nope, might happen after Covid.
AFAIK know no farms have been confiscated, or contemplated to be confiscated. I live here and should know.
On the other hand, land restitution without compensation is a hotly debated topic, with draft legislation still in process. Possible finalisation end of 2022 but probably 2023.
Lots of South African emigrants in Canada
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Latter-day trekkers I guess you could call them.
It's over, demographically and in every other sense.
Africa will be China's "problem" in future and China will solve that problem slowly but inexorably.
Many there would believe it is their natural right to do so, and one could certainly make that case; they value their own nation and culture enough to reproduce and thereby preserve it.
Those who can't be bothered to do so, despite all the luxuries of life in the Western World since WWII? They have decided their own fate.
“There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”
Edward Bernays, 1928
Much changes, much remains the same. 
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Really doesn't seem to be much happening other than the government getting more frantic about people getting vaccinated. Several states and cities are making it mandatory to be vaccinated or tested weekly. The news seems hung up on the south having very low vaccination rates and how hospitalizations are rising dramatically, deaths are not and the numbers in many of the southern states were never high to begin with. They continue to find these rare individuals who had very bad reactions to try to get people to get vaccinated. Also making a big issue about blacks not getting the vaccine and wondering why. Several prominent black leaders and the Democrats were telling them not to get vaccinated and making comparisons to WWII era government testing all last year when Trump was President. That's why. The Veterans Administration made vaccines mandatory for all employees making it the first government agency to do so.
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Steve,
Wasn't he the man who was going to inject disinfectant straight into the blood stream/ Thank God he hasn't still got the keys around his neck 
'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
government getting more frantic
caught the tail end of the news...the ticker said something like Sydney went in to another lockdown after a few new cases reported? Then showed protesters being dispersed by mounted troops, and some govt person giving a speech about how the lockdown was all their fault...if they would just shut up and stay home the lockdown would run its course and end. I suppose if you threw a free and innocent person in jail they should just wait it out and all will be fine and over in due course? no harm done right?
Seriously though, what is the real scoop?
Not so seriously, though...https://www.foxnews.com/world/nude-s...ockdown-orders I suppose if I were naked, and confronted by a deer with a big rack, I'd take off running too.
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Originally Posted by
Gil Boyd
Steve,
Wasn't he the man who was going to inject disinfectant straight into the blood stream/ Thank God he hasn't still got the keys around his neck


If you mean Trump, the man responsible for getting the vaccine out as fast as it was, yes.
Hydrogen Peroxide is a common disinfectant used in medical facilities because it has no scent. It has also been used to treat viral infections through intravenous use and lung nebulizers, and it is this that Trump referred to. Nancy Pelosi is the one that told the world he wanted them to inject bleach which he did no such thing.
Hydrogen Peroxide exists naturally in the human body, increasing it's concentration has been a long established means of fighting viral infections. It was even used with great effectiveness during the Spanish Flu outbreak at the end of WWI. It's not new, it's major problem is it's dirt cheap and you can't make money off it.
But Trump said it, he had to be made to look like an idiot so the media went with bleach, everyone believed it and here we are. Another inexpensive treatment discounted because of the hatred of one man.
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Things might get interesting here in the US again as the CDC has done an about face on the mask issue again. New recommendations are the wearing of masks indoors by everyone, vaccinated or not, in areas where there is a significant outbreak of Covid. Substantial transmission means that a county is reporting between 50 to 100 cases per 100,000 over a week and high transmission means that a county is reporting more than 100 cases per 100,000 over a week. Apparently they can track all this.
Interesting side note, they also just got rid of the PCR test so how will they make a determination of who has it and who doesn't although it can continue to be used until the end of the year. They at least acknowledged it is faulty.
I personally do not think people will go back to wearing masks. There remain a few that have continued to wear them but the vast majority no longer do vaccinated or not.
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One thing I'm finding fascinating is the extreme difficulty I'm having finding the death data for the United States
. Several trackers stopped tracking in March. The CDC doesn't even have a link I can find, searches take you to the new cases. What limited information I can find is that the deaths continue to decline even while cases go up slightly. Total deaths can be found but not the old daily trackers which showed trends.
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Steve,
Agreed in principal, at that press conference that was shared around the world, it was of course the bit they wanted you to see that they played to make him look like an imbecile, when he said inject disinfectant.
We were shown on the other side of the pond, body bags in lorry refrigerator containers outside morgues in one City in the U.S, and it was supposed to be commonplace in most cities, so the figures might turn out to be high, but as we all know the press need to hype everything up as it sells papers andmakes news!!!
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'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
Total deaths can be found but not the old daily trackers which showed trends.
Well, it is easier after all to just take their word for it right?
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