Found it in storage, didnt know what it was!

[1903Collector]

I jusst found this in a storage box. I didnt know I had nor what it was!
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[butlersrangers]

Italian MVSN (National Security Volunteer Militia) dagger. Pretty neat!
I think the MVSN started out as a pro-Royalist - WW1 veteran's organization, that acted to prevent Italy from falling into chaos and Communism.
Ultimately, they came under control of Mussolini and the Facists.

I like the look and condition of your dagger. Don't mess with the finish! (I don't have a clue on its value, but it sure displays well).

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[martin08]

You can look this up by calling it an Italian MSVN Blackshirt Dagger, Youth Knife/Dagger, or Boot Knife. When you search, you can see asking prices north of $800, but do they sell?

My thoughts are that genuine specimens, as yours appears, would trade fairly at nearer 30-60% of ebay asking prices. Why such a large range and discrepancy? Knives can be tricky to sell. Sometimes there is little interest, and sometimes a bidding war erupts.

Here is one which has little remaining black paint and apparent poor condition blade with evidence of over sharpening which went for $125 before premium, tax and shipping.

https://www.icollector.com/Original-...gger_i33327421

[browningautorifle]

Nice piece, looks like a vet bringback. Just the sort of thing a guy would pick up over there.

[1903Collector]

You can look this up by calling it an Italian MSVN Blackshirt Dagger, Youth Knife/Dagger, or Boot Knife. When you search, you can see asking prices north of $800, but do they sell?

My thoughts are that genuine specimens, as yours appears, would trade fairly at nearer 30-60% of ebay asking prices. Why such a large range and discrepancy? Knives can be tricky to sell. Sometimes there is little interest, and sometimes a bidding war erupts.

Here is one which has little remaining black paint and apparent poor condition blade with evidence of over sharpening which went for $125 before premium, tax and shipping.

https://www.icollector.com/Original-...gger_i33327421

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...D4AEF8D0-1.jpg

Many thanks! From your pic it looks like Im missing a spacer on the blade side of the guard?

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Nice piece, looks like a vet bringback. Just the sort of thing a guy would pick up over there.

I knew I had a box with two knifes, but I never really looked at them. The first was like a Bowie Knife but smaller, with a BIG and THICK leather scabbard. Its single sided and marked NORTEX on the right side of the blade. Unfortunately, it was broken cleanly in half about 2 inches from the handle. It just looked like an old hunting knife to me. When I picked up this one ans saw the Fascist sysmbol I was amazed and immediately spent 2 hours cleaning it up. The handle soaked up 6 coats of boiled linseed oil. Im sure it cold take more before saturated. It was dry as a bone.

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Italian MVSN (National Security Volunteer Militia) dagger. Pretty neat!
I think the MVSN started out as a pro-Royalist - WW1 veteran's organization, that acted to prevent Italy from falling into chaos and Communism.
Ultimately, they came under control of Mussolini and the Facists.

I like the look and condition of your dagger. Don't mess with the finish! (I don't have a clue on its value, but it sure displays well).

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Thanks for the great info! I plan no alteration. I will only have 100% authentic items in my collection. THIS one is a bonus that dropped out of the sky, from where, I do not know!!!

[browningautorifle]

looks like Im missing a spacer on the blade side of the guard

You can make that of course...

[1903Collector]

BUt what is it, what material, what geometry. I need to find more pics of that.

[martin08]

My guess would be that the spacer did not survive with all knives, and improvisation is common. A rigid leather, such as that found on a shoe sole would be good. It could also be made from heavy felt. Make it fit well, and I think you will be good to go.

[browningautorifle]

BUt what is it, what material, what geometry.

Saddle skirt, Latigo in common parlance. Just heavy leather.