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When the chargers are loaded the proper way it makes no difference which way is up.
Imagine what the soldiers in the trenches would do if they had to paint their ammo chargers.
Yes, well this wasn't in combat. I tried something different to show all the AR shooters with all the bell's and whistles that the Lee Enfield was the slickest bolt action ever made and could almost run with them. When shooting IPSC competitions time is of the essence being one of the big three of the IPSC motto Diligentia Vis Celeritas. One bad charging of the magazine and I would have come in dead last and with this little trick I actually beat a few AR shooters. I'm not afraid to think outside the box.
When the chargers are loaded the proper way it makes no difference which way is up.
Imagine what the soldiers in the trenches would do if they had to paint their ammo chargers.
Yeah, when the gun works with the proper way. When it don’t, you gotta figure **** out.
the Lee Enfield was the slickest bolt action ever made
I get your point, but would choose a different rifle.
Has my vote for the slickest bolt action rifle. Of course this guy is shooting 6.5x55. With a little practice a mosin clip can be made to speed load a standard issue Springfield krag.
I've loaded the chargers both ways staggered and in the one direction had probably 3 rim overs one in a speed shoot just a quick push down and a little nudge up and away again !
A few tips given to me at the time by shooters who had long standings with the Lee Enfield systems;
1. Go through your chargers and sort them into ones that load and strip freely without hangups keep these ones for your competitions ones that are hard to charge and hard to strip into the mag keep them for range practices.
2. When the last round leaves the last charger ever so slightly move your thumb towards the front (This takes practice but is achievable if I can do it you can) it's only a fraction but what your ensuring is your thumb not moving backwards and possibly inducing a rim-lock situation.
If you practice it enough it becomes muscle memory just like training over & over you do it without thought sadly I am way out of practice but still remember it.
Then I developed my own style in speed shooting with bolt cycling at speed this is how I went may not work for you but did for me.
3. When after firing (I used the traditional grip) I released my bottom fingers from the wrist keeping the weapon into my shoulder with sling & pressure from my front hand I would leave my cheek on the butt keeping it there as I lifted the bolt but before I pulled it to the rear to eject the spent case I rolled the rifle on my shoulder to the right an an inclined angle.
Keeping my head still in place without the rifle still looking at the target reef the bolt to the rear ejecting the case then as I started to push the bolt forward roll the rifle back to my cheek as the bolt almost into battery then grip the wrist again as the handle comes down, same cheek weld, same target eyes open all the way and repeat.
I did 25 rounds in a minute with a rim over I had to sort out so that spannered it a bit but with practice you can get them out faster, some use the middle finger on the trigger I know that but my way still has you gripping the wrist in the accepted manner.
Musketry training for the LE emphasised not having to move the head away from the butt when manipulating the bolt. The bolt doesn't move back far enough to hit the face. Keeps eyes on the sights while shooting follow up shots.
Mildly entertaining. More of a Shooter A beat Shooter B. And how hard was it to proofread the reader's copy who said the Enfield was reloaded with a 10-round stripper clip? Both guys were obviously using unfamiliar rifles. And who told Shooter A that you have to load a Krag like that? An experienced guy has all five rounds in his hand and "dumps" them in the capsule mag with as much speed as he can guarantee they all go in.
Both rifles should easily have been 100% hit rates.
Mildly entertaining. More of a Shooter A beat Shooter B. And how hard was it to proofread the reader's copy who said the Enfield was reloaded with a 10-round stripper clip? Both guys were obviously using unfamiliar rifles. And who told Shooter A that you have to load a Krag like that? An experienced guy has all five rounds in his hand and "dumps" them in the capsule mag with as much speed as he can guarantee they all go in.
Both rifles should easily have been 100% hit rates.
I found it curious the krag shooter was only 11 seconds slower with the slower reloading. I agree 100% hits at that distance from prone supported positions shouldn't have been too difficult. I disagree on the loading. I've played around plenty with my krags. I find the fastest+consistent way of doing it is is grabbing 1-2 from the belt at at time and tossing them in. I've tried holding 5 in my support hand while shooting. The kind of move and shoot, even with a supported position like they had, still requires 2 hands on the rifle to rapidly get on target - unless you are that skilled at dropping the forend on the bag and miraculously having near perfect sight alignment as soon as you drop behind it a fraction of a second later. I've shot trapdoor offhand with an extra couple cartridges between fingers. Worked out ok I guess, but not a fan. Much more reliable to grab one from the belt. Holding them that way for the Krag makes you drop more than you can load trying to get them back into your hand and/or getting the gate open.
I disagree on the loading. I've played around plenty with my Krags. ... I've tried holding 5 in my support hand while shooting.
I didn't mean that. Sorry. Shooting accurately with your hands free is the priority. Then, I open the door and grab 5 rounds and dump one or two at a time into the magazine. But all five are in my hand when I start that part.
Originally Posted by 303carbine
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