I saw less than a half dozen carbines. They are just not out and about. Their value is what they sell for. In the car business there is a saying: "There's an a$$ for every seat". At some point they will sell and who knows what the price will be? All it takes is a desire and money to get any price you ask. Given the rarity of carbines and ignorance of the average buyer, any price is possible. Consider that the CMPicon sold at the best possible price and we were standing in line to buy at $575-600+, on the open market $1000 is absolutely not an outrageous price. People tend to reference prices based on what they would want to pay rather than what the true value is. Beyond that, the step between $1000 and $1500 is not that great when an ignorant buyer is on the excitement plan. Looking at a reparked mixmaster with good wood, the guy could see stars not dollars.