I had some of that Gevelot stuff Simon and was all over the place with it. Mind you, with me and pistol shooting - and shooting in general now that I think about it - the crap or good ammo never really make any difference in my scores. Amazingly I struck lucky later as I swopped 'many' hundreds of rounds of it for, er........, even 'many, many more' .38 2z that was found stored as 9mm ball. Alas they took our .38's off us a year or so later