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    J P Sauer 1913 and Spanish Astra 300

    These are my two most recent handgun purchases. I apologize up front for scrubbing the serial numbers but I'm just not comfortable with that and handguns.

    The first is an Astra 300 which I found at Cabelas in Delaware and had shipped to the Hamburg Cabelas in PA so I could purchase it. These were produced by Spain and used widely in the Spanish Civil War. Contracts were also purchased by the Frenchicon and by Germanyicon. This particular example was purchased by the Spanish army prior to the Spanish Civil War. It is a blowback design, VERY difficult to cycle due to the strength of the spring. Caliber is 9mm Largo which is essentially an enlarged 9mm. Ammo is now scarce. I'm hoping Privi picks it up. In the meantime, I believe it can be reloaded using 9mm dies. It is said that these can also utilize 9mm ammo but the only thing holding the cartridge is the extractor. I'm not planning to try that. I have managed to find an original holster for it with a shoulder strap. That came from Sarco and needs some attention. They recommend neatsfoot oil which I have not yet located.

    The second is a J P Sauer model 1913. Produced in Germany in time for WWI. There are several different variations of this model and I believe this is the 2nd version with standard safety lever. The vast majority of these were produced for the civilian market although it was extremely popular as a pocket pistol for officers and thousands were purchased by them for this purpose. A relatively small number, approximately 40,000 were purchased by the military although it has been speculated that not even that many were bought. It is however the serial number range that contains military proofs. This example is part of the military purchase. Imperial acceptance stamp is next to the N proof mark. These pistols were marked either in this location or just in front of the trigger guard. This is also a blowback action with a striker firing mechanism. Very easy to manipulate but difficult to lock in the open position. It does not lock when on an empty magazine. You must pull back with one hand while pushing up on the small lever above the trigger. Production ended around 1930. Many of these were still carried in WWII and many were brought back after the war. Caliber is 32 Auto. Mike has one of these left if anyone is interested but it is not military marked.

    Both pistols are matching with excellent bores. The Astra magazine is unmarked. The Sauer magazines are not serialized.

    The final pic is the pair for a size comparison. The Astra is larger than a 1911.





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