Thankyou fr that information Jerry! That gives me an idea on how much I should get into it before I'm what they call upside down in it. I don't know, I guess since it was grampa's rifle and all, I might just go all out and offer him upwards of 1200 to 1500 tops then. It has all of it's cartouches and it's original single shoulder rod and it's lock and side lock mortises are still sharp as I remember. It'd be nece if the serial number was extremely low as well, but I can't say for sure what it is. I'll try to get it and just sit on it. Maybe it'll go up in value as time goes by. Better to have it than not have it. Thanks again Jerry and the rest of you guys for your assistance. I appreciate it. Fred