Adjustable rear sights

[Bill Hollinger]

Yep and dad said they sighted theirs in at 200 yards

Did they flip the "L" shaped leaf half way between 150 and 300 yards? The only adjustment on carbines that early was the flip sight that when flipped was either 150 or 300 yards.

[69 Stang]

believe the books if you want.... I believe the vets. They used them and were there. All of them can't be labled as "just cant remember".

[Bill Hollinger]

No problem. Enjoy the site. There is a lot of really good information here with some of the most knowledgeable folks known in the gun collecting world.

Buy some books, join the Carbine Club, find out who those in the know are and when asking a question be open to the right answers.

[BrianQ]

believe the books if you want.... I believe the vets. They used them and were there. All of them can't be labled as "just cant remember".

Do we believe the ones that said they had a Singer Carbine or Remington Garand as well? Do we selectively believe what we want or do we believe what we can prove to be true through documentation?

[dbarn]

Would want to closely examine a supposed original carbine from that era that had adjustable sights. In particular would want to see if it was originally staked for a flip sight and had the adjustable added later which is most likely the case. I have owned an otherwise original IBM carbine from late 1943 that was clearly staked for the flip sight and later, at some point the flip was removed and the adjustable added. The adj. relied solely on a tight compression fit as there was no additional staking. Obviously, the two sights were staked using different methods when installed from the factory.

[DaveHH]

My Winchester 5.6 has a factory fitted Hemphill stamped sight and it is neatly punched to secure the sight to the receiver. No stake marks just punch marks in the little cutouts made for the purpose. I would not want to go into a serious gunfight with a sight that was just shoved in there. The punch mark is at the bottom of the left rail. I can provide more close up photos if you want.

[DaveHH]

in the South Pacific in the Marine Corps. He told me that he shot a Japanese six times with a carbine before he finally went down. This was on Guadalcanal. He obviously had his islands mixed up since he would have had a Reising, 03, BAR or maybe a stolen Army Garand, no carbines yet. I might not be surprised if an adjustable sight showed up on Iwo Jima or Okinawa, but in 1943 in the Gilberts/Marshalls would be a real stretch. These guys aren't lying or even stretching the truth, they just get the time and place mixed up, God bless them.

[phil441]

My 100 YO father, remembers what he thinks he remembers. I know it's not all correct because I was there for some of it.
I don't challenge him or any of his few remaining friends on any of it and I'd suggest that the best thing to do is just let them keep their memories as they are. No need to cause them consternation or further confusion.

Give the guys their memories as they are. We owe it to them.

[FTD1167]

At least you got them to talk about it..My Dad passed and just left me photo albums, paper work and so forth. Lucky for me I ran into one of the guys in his unit on the internet that filled in many blanks. Now they are all gone.
I know one thing, things moved "real fast" for them.
Most did not think they would make it out alive, collecting carbines just was not on their minds..
I have a 7th AF book that was assembled in the 50s from WWII photos.
They have some carbines and garands I'll try to scan a few.

[dbarn]

My Winchester 5.6 has a factory fitted Hemphill stamped sight and it is neatly punched to secure the sight to the receiver. No stake marks just punch marks in the little cutouts made for the purpose. I would not want to go into a serious gunfight with a sight that was just shoved in there. The punch mark is at the bottom of the left rail. I can provide more close up photos if you want.

Hey Dave, I am referring to stake and punch mark as one in the same and is exactly my point. If you previously had a flip sight most likely there would have been some evidence of that with the different type of staking present. Usually these are hash marks, although I have seen original flip sights staked using a small round punch. The key here is the staking will be in different locations. The punch marks for an adjustable sight done at the factory are usually larger as well. The IBM example I am referring to above was most likely a field replacement adj. sight and was not staked with the typical round punch marks done by the factory.