Civilian jobs on military bases?

[TDH]

When stationed at Travis AFB from 69-71 we had approximately 30 military drivers in the motor pool and at least half that many civilian drivers. And they were prima donna's. Any runs off base within 3 hours before end of shift they couldn't take because of possible overtime issues. IIRC I was making under $200 amonth as an E-1 and they were making close to 10 bucks an hour then.

[oscars]

$10/hr for drivers in 1971 - not very likely. My history of the GS grades for 1971 indicates that the GS-5 scale (input for professional series in 1971) ran from $6938 to $9000. The usual GS scale for drivers in 1971 (GS-3) ran from $4917 to a little over $6000. The $10/hr figure corresponds to GS 14 step 1 or a middle series for the GS 12. These grades were reserved for senior professional types.

[AZPhil]

GS12 step 5

[arado]

I spent 30 plus years working in and out of WPAFB. I was a contractor charged with repair, design, building and maintenance of environmental testing chambers and associated equipment. I gave them -40 @ 100k altitude, or what ever they wanted. A very large civilian workforce there. Spent the rest of my time at General Motor's labs. Spent some time in shooting sports and motorcycles. Gary

[AZPhil]

Here is a site for the Navy/Marine Corps side.

DOD NOTICE AND CONSENT BANNER

[TDH]

OK Theripus your Google is better than my tired old memory. I know they were making a whole lot more than my less than 200 a month was

[oscars]

Sorry TDH. I didn't mean to come off as some sort of pompous ***. Civilian-military mixes on job sites have always been problematic. I was always perturbed at pulling alerts and not getting a dime extra whole the civies got OT or comp time.

[lpnracer]

Ten years ago,before I retired, I went with my Captain to the ASP(ammunition supply point) to draw ammo for my platoon. We had a narrow time frame to qualify as the ranges are reserved for short time blocks and running over is not an option. A fat, greasy slob eating a heart attack sandwhich, wiped his mouth with his sleeve after making us stand around for about ten minutes and gave my Captain grief over not having some damned form in triplicate. My Captain and I served together in Nam when we were both enlisted and this slobs disrespect sent me over the edge. He said to my captain " you cant have the ammo without the right forms I guess that you arent very good at being a captain are you? what would you do if we were at war?" Before he could answer I said " I would draw my sidearm and place a bullet in your forehead and we would have all the ammo we need." I had to go visit the Colonel for offending the dork. Left a lasting and unfavorable impression.

[TDH]

Not a problem Thepriapus I was in the same situation more times than I can remember. Also if an off base run was within 3 hours of end of shift we grunts got the runs while the civilian drivers sat on their duffs. Many a late night. Oh and the civie drivers never got the fun stuff like the base shuttlebus.

Ipnracer good one I probably would have done the same and thank you and the good Captain for your diligent service.

[DANCESWITHEMPTIES]

FWIW, I work for the military in Canada, sometimes on base, other times not. Lots of civvies support the military in Canada, Australia and the USA that I know of personally. I assume in the UK as well.

Dido, I'm attached to a specific squadron. For the most part I'm treated better by the military than my own company... Great people to work for!