(T) and scope the same number?

[breakeyp]

Giving away too much information just makes the fakers smarter next time. Five guys saying its a fake is safer than giving all the reasons why. mhopinion.

[Steve H. in N.Y.]

It looks like someone coughed up $2800 and bought the thing. I'm afraid he's in for a big disappointment when (if) he begins asking about it on the various forums.

[madcratebuilder]

I have looked at a lot of "T" rifles and have never seen one marked like this. Someone went to a lot of work to make a fake. I don't get the obvious mistakes. I would like to have his stamp sets.

[gravityfan]

Hey, thanks everyone for your input. Turned out to be an excellent thread.

Kicking myself for not noticing that it was a Faz s/n. Doh!

I guess the buyer must be a dealer - 880 feedback on GB and 65 items currently on sale. Wonder if he realises. Wonder how he will describe it when selling it on.

Anyone know Vito?

[limpetmine]

I think what may have happened is someone with a correct (T) figured out that with a matching scope = More $$, and figured the way to do it was by stamping the rifle, not knowing how the real ones were done. My hypothesis, FWIW.

I have looked at a lot of "T" rifles and have never seen one marked like this. Someone went to a lot of work to make a fake. I don't get the obvious mistakes. I would like to have his stamp sets.

[Roger Payne]

Hmmmm. Some more close ups of the receiver would have been nice.
-Would echo the obvious phoney 'S5' stamp on the obviously replacement woodwork.
-Wood looks to be birch to me, when would almost certainly have been walnut on a BSA by 1943.
- Mk3 looks ok but clearly a mis-match, as has already been stated, on a 43 rifle.
- Bracket just could be a grossly mutilated original 'improved' by Bubba at some point. Academic really as it's worthless now either way.
- Rifle has obviously been re-serial stamped on the butt socket, presumably by an incompetent faker who thinks that a matching kit means having the same number on your scope as your rifle. HOWEVER, I do think the basic receiver of the rifle may be a genuine T. Difficult to say for certain, but the look & fit of the pads looks right, & judging by our expert's handiwork I think if he'd fitted the pads himself it would be readily apparent....
- I understand a number of gutted T's ended up in the States about 10-12 years ago; essentially barrelled actions that needed a complete rebuild. I just wonder if this could be one of those rifles......?
- Just my .02c.
ATB