No 4 Mk 1 T help

[Bob Collins]

I appreciate all the input and have passed it on to the owner. Obviously this is not a "collector grade" combination. Would there be a market for it in the current configuration? With all things said, what price range should he expect on this? I know without having it "in hand" this is difficult but I am just trying to help the old fellow out.

Thanks,

Bob Collins

[Beerhunter]

I can't help with prices. Unfortunately, like all collectables, No4Ts are worth what the other guy is prepared to pay. Additionally, in the UK, our price structure is completely different to that the other side of the pond.

What the rifle has going for it it that it has a box (sought after in its own right) with several of the bits of the CES. (Scope tins often go for silly money.) So it will sell, just not to me - or anyone else who has a suspicious nature.

[viking guy]

My No32 scopes are blued. The scope you are considering appears painted. My scope rings are sequentially numbered on the side "blocks". The number on the top surface of the top ring is not a standard marking. The scope number should be stamped on the superior surface of the buttstock not the rifle serial number. The FTR marking could be faked to help"legitimize" the discrepancies noted. A judgement by Ian would be a considerable value.

[Surpmil]

A question regarding the scope bracket and caps (ring tops). How common is it to see the rifle S/N applied to the caps as well as the bracket proper?
I've never seen that done before.

Neither have I, but someone was more creative and better equiped with stamps than most people.

[jmoore]

The odd thing is that the numbers are to the rifle BEFORE this one. Otherwise, I'd dismiss it as just more "cobbling".

[Roger Payne]

I honestly don't think there's anything legitimate about the additional numbers on the rings, nor the bogus scope tin label, nor the overstamped rifle serial number where the scope number should be on the wrist of the butt (is it me or does anyone else think the rifle number on the butt has been stamped over pre-existing digits (presumably the original scope number)?). The supernummerary digits could be filed out or puddled over with weld, the label is easy enough, but it all becomes a bit of a restoration project & needs to be priced as such. Just my .02 FWIW.

ATB

[Enfield trader]

Here is the markings on my 1941 ROFM, no T and has an FTR marking.

[Hal O'Peridol]

Here is the markings on my 1941 ROFM, no T and has an FTR marking.

I'll bet that rifle has some of my DNA on it somewhere!

[PrinzEugen]

I honestly don't think there's anything legitimate about the additional numbers on the rings, nor the bogus scope tin label, nor the overstamped rifle serial number where the scope number should be on the wrist of the butt (is it me or does anyone else think the rifle number on the butt has been stamped over pre-existing digits (presumably the original scope number)?).

So you reckon they would have just overstamped the wrist of the butt with a new one? What's the correct size of the stamps - are these too big or have they simply used the same size as the original and it's almost worked?

[Enfield trader]

I'll bet that rifle has some of my DNA on it somewhere!

It did but I cleaned it ......